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CDiablo on 08 February 2011
deskpro2k3 said:
whatever said:
Ssliasil said:

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's are hackers and which are not lol.

Hell yes, go Sony!  Already kicked Geo-Hotz ass, keep it up.

What people dont realize, this is all for far more than just the playstation 3 - this help'sall companies, in both gaming and pratical electronic fields.

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's don't understand the concept of ownership and fair use.  I should be able to do whatever I want with the things I own as long as I'm not breaking any laws.  Just the act of "jailbreaking" anything should NEVER be illegal.  Pirating games should be illegal and punishable.  Opening up a console for other uses, even if it enables piracy, should not.  I don't understand how, as a consumer, you can be OK with this.

Do you really want a corporation telling you what you can and can't do with your own stuff?  Because that is where this is leading if this is allowed to stand.  You want to tinker with your car or some electronic device?  You could end up in the same place as Geohot.

And no, I've never hacked any gaming device or pirated any games.

Go Sony, take away our rights as consumers!


OK I'll give you an example. Lets say I picked up the keys to your house. I went ahead and made copies of that key and give them out to people. Since I'm able to do whatever I want with it, it is not breaking the law. Right?

 

Thats a retarded example. The correct way to phrase what you are saying is. 40 odd million people bought houses in a housing development. All of those houses have locked rooms that no one has access to because the seller doesnt want you using that portion of the property. The seller of the house is an idiot and left the key to those rooms buried in the backyard of every property. Someone did some digging and found the key and has copied it for all those 40 million users to use. Truth be told some users will add a man cave in the room or a home theater room. Sadly some users will use that room for making meth. Its up to the law to take care of the meth makers.

It boggles my mind how many people are supporting Sonys absurd actions. Im all for going after people selling BRDs of games but Sony's "you dont own what you own" policy is outrageous. I own it I can throw it off a bridge or I can jailbreak it, because I own it. I clearly cannot go online with a hacked firmware per the PSN agreement. I know it will result in bootlegging, but who gives a shit, XBOX does fine with it, Wii does fine with it, DS does fine with it, PC does fine with it. PSP's sales arent crippled by piracy, it doesnt sell because people think the games arent that great. Every system can be hacked for less than $50 and its easier to hack DS than it is to hack PSP.

If you are a kid and dont understand the concept of ownership, thats fine but any teen or adult that cannot clearly see that the concept of ownership in this is under attack is out of their mind. I've boycotted Sony and all games on their platforms since they removed OtherOS and though I don't suggest eyeryone going that route(huge Yakuza fan here), you do not have to blindly support every stupid action Sony makes.



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deskpro2k3 on 08 February 2011
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:
whatever said:
Ssliasil said:

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's are hackers and which are not lol.

Hell yes, go Sony!  Already kicked Geo-Hotz ass, keep it up.

What people dont realize, this is all for far more than just the playstation 3 - this help'sall companies, in both gaming and pratical electronic fields.

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's don't understand the concept of ownership and fair use.  I should be able to do whatever I want with the things I own as long as I'm not breaking any laws.  Just the act of "jailbreaking" anything should NEVER be illegal.  Pirating games should be illegal and punishable.  Opening up a console for other uses, even if it enables piracy, should not.  I don't understand how, as a consumer, you can be OK with this.

Do you really want a corporation telling you what you can and can't do with your own stuff?  Because that is where this is leading if this is allowed to stand.  You want to tinker with your car or some electronic device?  You could end up in the same place as Geohot.

And no, I've never hacked any gaming device or pirated any games.

Go Sony, take away our rights as consumers!


OK I'll give you an example. Lets say I picked up the keys to your house. I went ahead and made copies of that key and give them out to people. Since I'm able to do whatever I want with it, it is not breaking the law. Right?

 

Thats a retarded example. The correct way to phrase what you are saying is. 40 odd million people bought houses in a housing development.

 You don't understand my example, so don't put in your own words in it if you dont get it. Especially 3 paragraph or more. lol..



Galaki on 08 February 2011

Surely, Sony heard of the Streisand Effect?



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Bullet100000 on 08 February 2011

I think the better thing for $ony to do is work closely with companies like Activision who's games sell really well on PS3  get the names of the COD modders and start the BanHammer.  They already perma banned people for modding Black ops they need to do the same for MW2 & MW.  If word gets out $ony is banning people back and forth i'm sure hackers would settle down right away.  Also it would be wiser to BAN them from PSN and not just COD servers.



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SnesTea on 08 February 2011

Also, they can't hunt down hackers if we don't go online with our PS3s. Suck on it Sony. If I want to put StarCraft on my PS3, I damn will do what I please.



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Aprisaiden on 08 February 2011
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:
whatever said:
Ssliasil said:

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's are hackers and which are not lol.

Hell yes, go Sony!  Already kicked Geo-Hotz ass, keep it up.

What people dont realize, this is all for far more than just the playstation 3 - this help'sall companies, in both gaming and pratical electronic fields.

This topic makes it blatantly clear which poster's don't understand the concept of ownership and fair use.  I should be able to do whatever I want with the things I own as long as I'm not breaking any laws.  Just the act of "jailbreaking" anything should NEVER be illegal.  Pirating games should be illegal and punishable.  Opening up a console for other uses, even if it enables piracy, should not.  I don't understand how, as a consumer, you can be OK with this.

Do you really want a corporation telling you what you can and can't do with your own stuff?  Because that is where this is leading if this is allowed to stand.  You want to tinker with your car or some electronic device?  You could end up in the same place as Geohot.

And no, I've never hacked any gaming device or pirated any games.

Go Sony, take away our rights as consumers!


OK I'll give you an example. Lets say I picked up the keys to your house. I went ahead and made copies of that key and give them out to people. Since I'm able to do whatever I want with it, it is not breaking the law. Right?

 

Thats a retarded example. The correct way to phrase what you are saying is. 40 odd million people bought houses in a housing development. All of those houses have locked rooms that no one has access to because the seller doesnt want you using that portion of the property. The seller of the house is an idiot and left the key to those rooms buried in the backyard of every property. Someone did some digging and found the key and has copied it for all those 40 million users to use. Truth be told some users will add a man cave in the room or a home theater room. Sadly some users will use that room for making meth. Its up to the law to take care of the meth makers.

It boggles my mind how many people are supporting Sonys absurd actions. Im all for going after people selling BRDs of games but Sony's "you dont own what you own" policy is outrageous. I own it I can throw it off a bridge or I can jailbreak it, because I own it. I clearly cannot go online with a hacked firmware per the PSN agreement. I know it will result in bootlegging, but who gives a shit, XBOX does fine with it, Wii does fine with it, DS does fine with it, PC does fine with it. PSP's sales arent crippled by piracy, it doesnt sell because people think the games arent that great. Every system can be hacked for less than $50 and its easier to hack DS than it is to hack PSP.

If you are a kid and dont understand the concept of ownership, thats fine but any teen or adult that cannot clearly see that the concept of ownership in this is under attack is out of their mind. I've boycotted Sony and all games on their platforms since they removed OtherOS and though I don't suggest eyeryone going that route(huge Yakuza fan here), you do not have to blindly support every stupid action Sony makes.

I think your the one who dosn't understand the concept of ownership, Caveat Emptor or licensing software. When you buy a console you are buying the hardware. You own it - you can do what ever you like with it. You are also buying a license to use the software GAME OS. To reverse engineer, modify, distribute or advertise game os is in breach of your contract. 

 As such it is completly reasonble for SONY sue those who decided to reverse engineer and distribute alternate versions of GAME OS for the sole purpose of stealing video games under the pre-tense of ownership of the software.



Lionlicious on 08 February 2011

I hope Sony ends up setting this as an example, to make the hacker communities much smaller.
Definitely do not want them anywhere near my consoles, they already ruined PC gaming.



Cypher1980 on 08 February 2011
Darc Requiem said:

Why do I get the feeling that this will only embolden hackers to focus on Sony platforms even more?


Precisely.

Posturing like this will only give hackers a form of justification for their actions.

Why oh why do SONY behave like such monumental dicks all the time.

May as well just paint a frickin target on their chests.



TT Makaveli on 08 February 2011

yeah...get em Sony! ^^



Darc Requiem on 08 February 2011
Cypher1980 said:
Darc Requiem said:

Why do I get the feeling that this will only embolden hackers to focus on Sony platforms even more?


Precisely.

Posturing like this will only give hackers a form of justification for their actions.

Why oh why do SONY behave like such monumental dicks all the time.

May as well just paint a frickin target on their chests.


I'm not sure. They are wasting money poking the beehive with a stick. They'd be better served to use the funds to make their future platforms more secure. Hackers aren't a rival corporation, they are individuals spread across the globe. If Sony's lucky they may snag a half dozen or so, get no money from them because they don't have it, and piss off the thousands of hackers they didn't catch.