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bannedagain said:
psrock said:
thx1139 said:
pachoo5 said:

That is the shipped gap. There are more PS3s sitting on store shelves than there are 360s sitting on store shelves. The sold through to consumer gap is right at 4 million.

More proper to say that on Jan 1 there were more PS3s on store shelves than there were 360s.  Remember PS3 still had holiday push in Japan to be prepared for. 

I expect 1st qtr shipments for 360 to be about 1 million more than PS3 shipments for the same period.


you want to bet? 


I will bet that xbox 360 ships more then ps3 next Quarter.


even with the launch of kinect, a new slim model, halo reach and extreme advertising, they didnt sell more xbox 360's? so what on earth is gonna push it next quarter? enlighten me. sony have to sell 2.8 million ps3's AT THE LEAST to reach their target. i dont see microisoft shipping 3 million 360's next quarter.



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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
bannedagain said:
psrock said:
thx1139 said:
pachoo5 said:

That is the shipped gap. There are more PS3s sitting on store shelves than there are 360s sitting on store shelves. The sold through to consumer gap is right at 4 million.

More proper to say that on Jan 1 there were more PS3s on store shelves than there were 360s.  Remember PS3 still had holiday push in Japan to be prepared for. 

I expect 1st qtr shipments for 360 to be about 1 million more than PS3 shipments for the same period.


you want to bet? 


I will bet that xbox 360 ships more then ps3 next Quarter.


even with the launch of kinect, a new slim model, halo reach and extreme advertising, they didnt sell more xbox 360's? so what on earth is gonna push it next quarter? enlighten me.

I hate to defend this guy but ps3 does have a ton of consoles left over that were shipped last quarter and 360 not so much I think theres a chance of 360 shipping slightly more then ps3 but if it does ps3 will just stomp it next quarter and gain 1-2 million WW over the year, so yeah



tooto123 said:

plz vgc fix the gap numbers its official now 2.8 only

Dec Q shipment is tie,so shipment gap is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

still 2.9m i mean



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
bannedagain said:
psrock said:
thx1139 said:
pachoo5 said:

That is the shipped gap. There are more PS3s sitting on store shelves than there are 360s sitting on store shelves. The sold through to consumer gap is right at 4 million.

More proper to say that on Jan 1 there were more PS3s on store shelves than there were 360s.  Remember PS3 still had holiday push in Japan to be prepared for. 

I expect 1st qtr shipments for 360 to be about 1 million more than PS3 shipments for the same period.


you want to bet? 


I will bet that xbox 360 ships more then ps3 next Quarter.


even with the launch of kinect, a new slim model, halo reach and extreme advertising, they didnt sell more xbox 360's? so what on earth is gonna push it next quarter? enlighten me. sony have to sell 2.8 million ps3's AT THE LEAST to reach their target. i dont see microisoft shipping 3 million 360's next quarter.

i don't think 2.1->2.8,5.2->6.3 is "didn't sell more"...

and don't you think Kinect is long run(it's hardware)



I just come on to VG Chartz for a guide but we know there numbers are just guesses. Why do you really take them so serious. Only the numbers shipped from the companies are true numbers and not estimates. VGChartz is  a joke and the reason they always adjust there numbers to more reliable sources(NPD, media crate) should tell you guys that.



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scapegoatsqueal said:

And yet some PS3 fans still insist the only reason 360 has more units sold is because of the one year advantage, even though the gap is widening! lulz


You may want to check the facts before making that claim.



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thx1139 said:

The point I made about Japan was that people have been going on no way only 300K 360s on shelves while the PS3 has 1.6M at the end of December.. My point was that the number is realistic because there is always next to nothing on shelves in Japan.  While Sony had to make sure at least a couple of hundred thousand had to be at retailers in Japan because of the high holiday sales that happen in early January.

I dont care about Sony shipment target they have missed it before and if they are selling less this year than last when they only shipped 2.2M what is going to cause them to ship 2.8M.  Only thing possible is that they convince retailers to take more units with perhaps some special deals.  Yes we heard about the shortages last year, but funny thing when shortages were over sales never increased so shipping the 2.2M didnt really hurt.

Finally MS specifically stated they sold out in December and had to airship units that were meant to be sold in January.  Normally those units would have been put on boats and whould have taken weeks to arrive.  This was tracked in threads during December. This is the reason MS said that shortages could occur late January and into February. Since airship is much more expensive MS would airship as minimal as possible and get the units back on boats Jan 1. The difference between MS and Sony is that MS gave a specific time frame when the shortages could occur.  Sony went on about shortages for months.

yeah PS3 has the JAPAN front to cover too but its not like PS3 sells millions out there.it just sells 1.5m per year and the number that you are linking to is quite high just for the january time

 

also that 1.6m you keep mentioning is vgc numbers which keep getting adjusted so don't talk of it as the absolutely correct number.if you remember last quater,it was the same like now and people were saying sony was lying or there were millions of PS3's on shelves but then PS3 got adjusted up around 2m and then everybody started believing it

last year they shipped 2.2m with major supply issues.it was bad if you followed the shortages.they didn't have enough PS3's even during GOD OF WAR 3's launch.the shortages were only over fully in may when their new RSX 40nm's came in which SONY was waiting for cause they were going to reduce costs.Also that they had reached 13m target for that year so they didn't need to ship more than 2.2m in that quarter

i know MS spoke about shortages but it never really happened as they did do their job and got enough for the christmas period and when it ended and the next stock was to arrive,they cooled off as it wasn't christmas so they didn't need to hurry extra consoles as after christmas period is not that valuable period for sales.



snakenobi said:
thx1139 said:

The point I made about Japan was that people have been going on no way only 300K 360s on shelves while the PS3 has 1.6M at the end of December.. My point was that the number is realistic because there is always next to nothing on shelves in Japan.  While Sony had to make sure at least a couple of hundred thousand had to be at retailers in Japan because of the high holiday sales that happen in early January.

I dont care about Sony shipment target they have missed it before and if they are selling less this year than last when they only shipped 2.2M what is going to cause them to ship 2.8M.  Only thing possible is that they convince retailers to take more units with perhaps some special deals.  Yes we heard about the shortages last year, but funny thing when shortages were over sales never increased so shipping the 2.2M didnt really hurt.

Finally MS specifically stated they sold out in December and had to airship units that were meant to be sold in January.  Normally those units would have been put on boats and whould have taken weeks to arrive.  This was tracked in threads during December. This is the reason MS said that shortages could occur late January and into February. Since airship is much more expensive MS would airship as minimal as possible and get the units back on boats Jan 1. The difference between MS and Sony is that MS gave a specific time frame when the shortages could occur.  Sony went on about shortages for months.

yeah PS3 has the JAPAN front to cover too but its not like PS3 sells millions out there.it just sells 1.5m per year and the number that you are linking to is quite high just for the january time

 

also that 1.6m you keep mentioning is vgc numbers which keep getting adjusted so don't talk of it as the absolutely correct number.if you remember last quater,it was the same like now and people were saying sony was lying or there were millions of PS3's on shelves but then PS3 got adjusted up around 2m and then everybody started believing it

last year they shipped 2.2m with major supply issues.it was bad if you followed the shortages.they didn't have enough PS3's even during GOD OF WAR 3's launch.the shortages were only over fully in may when their new RSX 40nm's came in which SONY was waiting for cause they were going to reduce costs.Also that they had reached 13m target for that year so they didn't need to ship more than 2.2m in that quarter

i know MS spoke about shortages but it never really happened as they did do their job and got enough for the christmas period and when it ended and the next stock was to arrive,they cooled off as it wasn't christmas so they didn't need to hurry extra consoles as after christmas period is not that valuable period for sales.

The shortages did happen, Microsoft brought a shipment forward by air freight to cover themselves.  Sooner or later they're going to have to suffer more shortages as they move back to shipping channels for future shipments. 



PS3 ltd on VGZ is fine, its 360 which need to be adjusted down. I mean just 400k left on stores? And that was after huge adjustements already otehrwise VGZ had 360 more then what MS shipped. lol



pachoo5 said:

That is the shipped gap. There are more PS3s sitting on store shelves than there are 360s sitting on store shelves. The sold through to consumer gap is right at 4 million.


Have you count them?