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M.U.G.E.N said:

and why nintendo have anything to do with this thread? spin how you want, his meltdown was hilarious and at the same time derailing. Want me to go into ninty threads to bitch about how xxx dev said this damn bastards, etc etc?  want me to say things like 3ds is mainly targeting 3d tech whores? Please spare me the drama and hypocracy, his intentions, content everything is done for a simple purpose, Defend him all you guys want, not like I expected otherwis anyways.

ANd no it is news, a dev said they are excited for the device....it's good news for NGP and fans...what bitch fights they had with ninty and fans is irrelavant here

anywho I'm done on the matter, unless he comes in for meltdown and insults I don't care what his buddies think of his innocent words.

Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit? Makes you seem paranoid - relax ;)

Good idea :)



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miz1q2w3e said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

and why nintendo have anything to do with this thread? spin how you want, his meltdown was hilarious and at the same time derailing. Want me to go into ninty threads to bitch about how xxx dev said this damn bastards, etc etc?  want me to say things like 3ds is mainly targeting 3d tech whores? Please spare me the drama and hypocracy, his intentions, content everything is done for a simple purpose, Defend him all you guys want, not like I expected otherwis anyways.

ANd no it is news, a dev said they are excited for the device....it's good news for NGP and fans...what bitch fights they had with ninty and fans is irrelavant here

anywho I'm done on the matter, unless he comes in for meltdown and insults I don't care what his buddies think of his innocent words.

Don't you think you're exaggerating a bit? Makes you seem paranoid - relax ;)

Good idea :)

nah not at all :) doesn't take a genius to figure out what's plain obvious, it's a too random a burst out plus meltdown

but yea I agree no use in going on about it



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M.U.G.E.N said:
zarx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

but but it haz no gamez? or support? will take millionz to make gamez for it?

 

:(


it will take millions to make original games, you know the ones people wan't to play on a handheld rather than a poor man's console game lol.

hahahhaa oh wow you guys are out today aren't ya!? :D

ok ok I'll play along and see then

we already had many reports and interviews saying how NGP is easy to develop for and how devs can use many sources they used before on it with ease. This will cut cost, time and will come off as a very attractive option for devs. But hey we shall see when games start to get announced more right?

We already saw around what 10 games? NGP is getting a new Uncharted game, KZ, Resistance etc etc...but wait a sec! they had other games too!????? 0_0 no wayyyyyyyyyyyy ...

and from the sound of it, poor mans console is a poor choice of words from you, NGP will not be the cheapest device on the market who touts tech enhancements and who has console games/IP/and lol ports....I'll leave it to you to figure out which handheld will fit that bill by 'your' definition.

and btw do you at least have anything to back up the nonsense you say or is this just random bickering?

I am disappointed with both handhelds line up of announced games the fact that most of them are ports or spinoffs is very disappointing. But that's to be expected with launch lineups as they are the games that are easy to make, having said that if you notice most of the comments from developers about the NGP have been about how easy it is to port games and how it can deliver experiences like that of the PS3. That and the fact that outside of a few gems the PSP's library mostly shipped with weaker versions of console games, not saying it didn't have some great games tho. But for a handheld I don't really just want games that would be better on a bigger screen and not being hunched over for long periods. One or to is fine for long wait/trips but it can't be the only thing.

TBH I am leaning towards the NGP at the moment but only if the price is similar to the 3DS and the games are about the same price. But at the moment I am really waiting to see which one is the first to get 5 games I really want announced but the NGP currently has 0 and the 3DS has 3 currently so I guess I will know which one I want after E3. Or which ever one gets a 2D Castlevania lol.

also the NGP is a little big IMO so I might end up waiting for a redesign.

P.S. just in case the lol in my original post didn't tip you off it was kinda a joke...



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M.U.G.E.N said:
HappySqurriel said:

Graphics whore developer with significant anti-Nintendo bias says he is impressed by platform that is designed to appeal to graphics whores and is in direct competition with Nintendo ... I would have never expected that reaction from him.


LOl meltdown much? this thread has nothing to do with Ninty ya know ;) but it's ok let those irrelavant inner emotions come out, it's entertaining at least I guess.

and btw what's with this only 'graphic whores' seem to like NGP argument? is that one new? why no new thread on it?!

Lol. totally!

After trying Bulletstorm, I'm all eyes for Epic's projects on the NGP.



RolStoppable said:

This thread took an interesting turn. Someone's stating the obvious and finds himself under attack. Some people are acting way too defensive lately and can't take the slighest bit of not-favoring-their-platform-of-choice.

M.U.G.E.N., you really need to re-read the thread. You shouldn't act surprised to read an insulting line directed towards you, if you were the one to launch several personal insults first. Additionally, there was a lot of misinterpretation coming from your side coupled with ignorance to understand the justification of HappySqurriel's initial comment. IF there's a meltdown in this thread, then it's you, not him.

Why are Epic Games' comments not surprising at all? Because Epic Games wants to sell their Unreal Engine to as many developers as possible. Nintendo platforms have not much potential for profitability for them, because almost all developers can easily get by by building their own engines. Other platforms have much higher development costs, so licensing an engine becomes a common practice and since the NGP enters PS3/360 territory it's right in the ballpark where Epic Games wants it to be.

Remember that they didn't give a damn for the original PSP, that's because they couldn't sell their Unreal Engine for it.


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RolStoppable said:

Why are Epic Games' comments not surprising at all? Because Epic Games wants to sell their Unreal Engine to as many developers as possible. Nintendo platforms have not much potential for profitability for them, because almost all developers can easily get by by building their own engines. Other platforms have much higher development costs, so licensing an engine becomes a common practice and since the NGP enters PS3/360 territory it's right in the ballpark where Epic Games wants it to be.

They do not give a damn about 3DS, because it's essentially ES1.1 machine, though at the same time it's much more than just that. True, Epic do not bother with low-end market, where as you've mentioned licensing engines usually makes no sense, but 3DS is  perfectly capable of multiplatform development and thus it's in everyone's advantage (Epic, third parties, Nintendo) to have some good middleware on the platform. Yes, it means there'll be more ports from home consoles and likely more high-end games on the platform, which some may or may not like, while a lot cheaper ones, that used to sell for $20 on DS, will go fully digital for $10 or under. By not supporting 3DS they're missing a great opportunity to get bigger revenues from portable market, bigger than smartphones (still not exactly high-end), bigger than NGP (due to likely smaller marketshare). The decision to not support 3DS has smth to do with Rein's personal bias, and no, the bias has nothing to do with Nintendo directly.



HappySqurriel said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
HappySqurriel said:

Graphics whore developer with significant anti-Nintendo bias says he is impressed by platform that is designed to appeal to graphics whores and is in direct competition with Nintendo ... I would have never expected that reaction from him.


LOl meltdown much? this thread has nothing to do with Ninty ya know ;) but it's ok let those irrelavant inner emotions come out, it's entertaining at least I guess.

and btw what's with this only 'graphic whores' seem to like NGP argument? is that one new? why no new thread on it?!

I didn't say that the NGP was only designed to appeal to graphics whores, but that would be the group that would be most interested in the NGP over the 3DS at this point in time. Beyond that, Mark Reign has a rampant history of very anti-Nintendo statements ...

 

In 2006 when the Wii was still the revolution and the Wiimote had just been displayed, Mark Reign was giving a presentation to developers and justified ignoring the Wii because no hardcore gamers bought Gamecubes, and to demonstrate his point he asked everyone in the audience who owned a Gamecube to raise their hand; when the majority of the audience raised their hand he asked everyone who owned a PC, PS2 or XBox and played games on it to lower their hands. When it was only 10% of the audience who still had their hands up he said his point was made.

Unfortunately, Mark Reign is either too foolish or dishonest to realize that had he done a similar survey with any platform only a very small minority of core gamers/game developers don't own multiple platforms to play games on.


The group that is more interested in the PSP2 over the that DS is the one who is waiting for new entries in masterpieces from Sony's first party and that looks forward to the solid support the handheld presents over it's back with third parties. Don't simplify the following behind the handheld by people interested solely in graphics.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

gears of war for NGP



Oh.

Another thread that doesn't mention them, is hijacked by them. Amazing.

 

As for Gears on the NGP. No.

If Epic wont let Gears appear on the PS3, don't expect it on the NGP.

I am curious to see what they eventually put on it though. UT? Bulletstorm port? Really can't see it being Gears anyway.



                            

Carl2291 said:

Oh.

Another thread that doesn't mention them, is hijacked by them. Amazing.

 

As for Gears on the NGP. No.

If Epic wont let Gears appear on the PS3, don't expect it on the NGP.

I am curious to see what they eventually put on it though. UT? Bulletstorm port? Really can't see it being Gears anyway.

well from the tech demo I would say infinity blade seems to be the most likely candidate along with pretty much any other unreal engine game for the iPad



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