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And some of them aren't even real "suspects" because there is no charge against them , so in other words some of these people were simply abducted and tortured by the USA - seems like something the terrorists would do

It's not useful eitherl. Torture isn't effective and it never has been when it comes to extracting info. All the information you extract is pretty much useless because the person is going to be lieing to you... and it's going to be impossible to tell the truth from them lieing to get you to stop.

It's rather pointless. It's the same reason drugs arn't used to get info out of suspects. Sadly the only candidate that really understands this is the one who actually went through YEARS of torture. Yet nobody wants to listen to him. Pretty much any sort of backround in psychology can tell you why torture NEVER works. Outside of like... causing intense hate at the people torturing you. (Which at best if they are already terrorists, does nothing.)

good job. why show mercy to terrorists?

But but, torture works in movies. So, it must work in real life, too.

Because thats what we do in the west.  Its totally hypocritical for us to do anything otherwise. We say our values are one thing and try and impose them on the rest of the world, but then do something else. If you dont like it go and live in north korea or somewhere where they're really down with your whole "no mercy" to "baddies" bullshit.

Consider this now all too possible scenario due to changes that were made to this country's legal system over the past 6 years.

You make a comment or ask a question on the internet that government officials can skew as support of terrorists or terrorist action.

The state department declares you an Enemy Combatant without any need for a warrant or legal authroization, strips you of your citizenship, hauls you off to Guantanimo, and starts using these "techniques" on you.

How do you feel about the process now? What if it happened to a friend or family member?

Just because a terrorist organization might do that to US citizens does not mean we should sacrifice our morals and do the same. In that case you could justify any action as there is a person or group on this planet that would do pretty much anything.

Should we allow canibalism of canibals? Should we kill the children of children killers? (Oh wait, I think we already did that, its called the Iraq war)

The UN just passed a measure headed by the European union to ban the death penalty. Guess who were the two leading dessentors:

The US and Iran.

We have become morally bankrupt and fueled by perpetual fear, we allow ourselves to turn a blind eye to what we know to be wrong just so we can feel that one less bad guy is not out in the world (whether its true or not,) and THAT is the exact opposite of the principles the US was founded upon. It makes me sad, angry, and ashamed.

 Most people they arrest as being terrorists aren't