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damkira on 18 December 2007
mr-money said:

Nintendo simply does not have the stock to fulfill demand. MASSES of people are going to go home pissed off this Christmas. We all know that Christmas is the time where everyone buys big gifts.

 

So do you really think that people will be after Wiis next XMAS, or would they have just given up? I find it very possible that Wii will be old news by next Christmas. No one is going to buy a piece of paper for XMAS guaranteeing a Wii in the future. No one wants a present-less XMAS.

 

Next year, people could very well remember the Wii as the gift they could never find.


 Wow.. I've heard all of this before.. last year.

 



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Avinash_Tyagi on 18 December 2007
damkira said:
mr-money said:

Nintendo simply does not have the stock to fulfill demand. MASSES of people are going to go home pissed off this Christmas. We all know that Christmas is the time where everyone buys big gifts.

 

So do you really think that people will be after Wiis next XMAS, or would they have just given up? I find it very possible that Wii will be old news by next Christmas. No one is going to buy a piece of paper for XMAS guaranteeing a Wii in the future. No one wants a present-less XMAS.

 

Next year, people could very well remember the Wii as the gift they could never find.


 Wow.. I've heard all of this before.. last year.

 


 Expect it next year as well, along with the Wii is a fad comments, its the new annual tradition



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Mummelmann on 18 December 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mummelmann is just scared of the Wii, so he's hoping it'll be a fad

 Yes I am actually, I like games the way they are.



Avinash_Tyagi on 18 December 2007
RolStoppable said:
Mummelmann said:

That happens all the time with cellphones, clothes, cars and accessories of various kinds. Maybe it can happen to a console aimed at the unstable casual masses? Who knows? Right now, I don't give a crap, but it'll be exciting to see how things are in 2-3 years. Meanwhile, I'll be playing my PC, cursing it for already being too slow even though I spent 4000$ on it last year...


We won't know until such a console is released.

The Wii is aimed at core and casual gamers to reinforce their interest to keep playing games while simultaneously offering games that are easily accessible for everyone, including people who haven't played videogames before.

If the Wii would be only aimed solely at casuals (as some people mistakenly think), why is it that you hear core gamers continuously speculate on how the Wiimote could be used in established genres and for what new kinds of games it could be used? 

As a sidenote, I hate Rayman 3. It took me 15 minutes to type this post because of this game. 


 Its aimed at everyone, in fact they even said so at E3 2006, the war is against indifference



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Mummelmann on 18 December 2007
rocketpig said:
Mummelmann said:
rocketpig said:
Hawk said:
MikeB said:
I think Christmas 2008 will be less big than this year for the Nintendo Wii, HDTV penetration is rising rapidly, the Blu-Ray vs HD DVD war will probably finally come to an end. 3rd parties will likely continue to struggle on the Wii.

::chuckle:: The old "graphics may not matter now, but they will in the future! I promise!"


Of course. People are going to radically change their opinion of everything in the next 12 months.


That happens all the time with cellphones, clothes, cars and accessories of various kinds. Maybe it can happen to a console aimed at the unstable casual masses? Who knows? Right now, I don't give a crap, but it'll be exciting to see how things are in 2-3 years. Meanwhile, I'll be playing my PC, cursing it for already being too slow even though I spent 4000$ on it last year...


Cellphones and clothes are virtually disposable items. Most people don't spend more than $50 on their cellphones.

Mass consumer items that are over $200 are a little different. The Wii won't stop selling any time soon. Shit, Nintendo is handing out vouchers just to get one now.

You're basically saying the Wii is a fad without actually stating it. I thought we were past that at this point. It's obvious the Wii is going to continue to sell when it hasn't been in stock in most places for 13 straight months now.


 Ah, I forget, there is no flux in the markets these days. Seriously, how can you know it'll sell well in 2-3 years? Why I am not allowed to think that the Wii won't see insane LT numbers without being ridiculed. My opinion is every bit as balanced as yours, only you don't like it. It's a sad day when JL gets more credibility than many of the sane users on here, sad indeed.

I'm sorry I don't approve of the Wii, I owned an N64, almost never played a GC, I think Nintendo machines get worse every gen. Please respect that. 



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Zucas on 18 December 2007
mr-money said:

Nintendo simply does not have the stock to fulfill demand. MASSES of people are going to go home pissed off this Christmas. We all know that Christmas is the time where everyone buys big gifts.

 

So do you really think that people will be after Wiis next XMAS, or would they have just given up? I find it very possible that Wii will be old news by next Christmas. No one is going to buy a piece of paper for XMAS guaranteeing a Wii in the future. No one wants a present-less XMAS.

 

Next year, people could very well remember the Wii as the gift they could never find.


 Well let's think about it.  It's huge this year.  Thus it'll carry over til next year meaning people will continuely try and buy it throughout the year cause not only sales to stay up but brand as well.  Meaning yes next Christmas Wii should have another huge holidays.



super_etecoon on 18 December 2007
Mummelmann said:
rocketpig said:
Mummelmann said:
rocketpig said:
Hawk said:
MikeB said:
I think Christmas 2008 will be less big than this year for the Nintendo Wii, HDTV penetration is rising rapidly, the Blu-Ray vs HD DVD war will probably finally come to an end. 3rd parties will likely continue to struggle on the Wii.

::chuckle:: The old "graphics may not matter now, but they will in the future! I promise!"


Of course. People are going to radically change their opinion of everything in the next 12 months.


That happens all the time with cellphones, clothes, cars and accessories of various kinds. Maybe it can happen to a console aimed at the unstable casual masses? Who knows? Right now, I don't give a crap, but it'll be exciting to see how things are in 2-3 years. Meanwhile, I'll be playing my PC, cursing it for already being too slow even though I spent 4000$ on it last year...


Cellphones and clothes are virtually disposable items. Most people don't spend more than $50 on their cellphones.

Mass consumer items that are over $200 are a little different. The Wii won't stop selling any time soon. Shit, Nintendo is handing out vouchers just to get one now.

You're basically saying the Wii is a fad without actually stating it. I thought we were past that at this point. It's obvious the Wii is going to continue to sell when it hasn't been in stock in most places for 13 straight months now.


Ah, I forget, there is no flux in the markets these days. Seriously, how can you know it'll sell well in 2-3 years? Why I am not allowed to think that the Wii won't see insane LT numbers without being ridiculed. My opinion is every bit as balanced as yours, only you don't like it. It's a sad day when JL gets more credibility than many of the sane users on here, sad indeed.

I'm sorry I don't approve of the Wii, I owned an N64, almost never played a GC, I think Nintendo machines get worse every gen. Please respect that.

Ok...this is where you go wrong.  You are basing your opinion of lifetime sales of a system based upon the fact that you don't approve of it?  There is plenty of room for speculation about trends and the world in flux without ever bringing your own personal view about a manufacturer into play.  As far as JL is concerned...most don't truly believe him.  He's fricking funny...that's it.   He could say that the Wii would sell -200 million  (yes...that's a negative number) and people  would love him the same.  He truly loves the role he plays here and it shows in his posts.  Try putting some wit and humor in your own posts (not simple sarcasm) and you will find that people love you, too.

 

 



Entroper on 18 December 2007

Demand for Wii in Japan is largely satisfied (i.e. not selling out every week), and demand in "total others" is approaching satisfied (or at least closer than in NA).  This will allow Nintendo to ship more units to NA during the first half of 2008, which will quicken the pace of when they will finally be "caught up."  I think by April of 2008, Wii will not be sold out every Sunday morning, and Nintendo will be able to stockpile more units for the 2008 holiday.

This is all assuming Wii Fit doesn't go ballistic and sell 2m+ in its first month.  :)



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Avinash_Tyagi on 18 December 2007
RolStoppable said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
RolStoppable said:

We won't know until such a console is released.

The Wii is aimed at core and casual gamers to reinforce their interest to keep playing games while simultaneously offering games that are easily accessible for everyone, including people who haven't played videogames before.

If the Wii would be only aimed solely at casuals (as some people mistakenly think), why is it that you hear core gamers continuously speculate on how the Wiimote could be used in established genres and for what new kinds of games it could be used?

As a sidenote, I hate Rayman 3. It took me 15 minutes to type this post because of this game.


Its aimed at everyone, in fact they even said so at E3 2006


That's what I was trying to say with the bolded paragraph. It's just that there are still some people who believe that "everyone" doesn't include them, that's why I split up the word "everyone" into the groups the Wii is aimed at. I forgot about the lapsed gamers though.

 Well the hardcore feel that its somehow going to make their games go away, when in fact that is the farthest thing from the truth, which is why I like Malstrom's bookstore analogy



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

clerk on 18 December 2007

That's what people said last Chritmas...