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Forums - Sales - Americas Up - 22nd January 2011

chapset said:

people being claiming shortage since the beginning of the year, you guys need to get your shortage excuse right, what will you do if next week the 360 sell the same amount and do the same the week after that??


um wait till march when apparently its back to normal... oh logic... does it hurt? it does, doesnt it



 

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AussieGecko said:
chapset said:

people being claiming shortage since the beginning of the year, you guys need to get your shortage excuse right, what will you do if next week the 360 sell the same amount and do the same the week after that??


um wait till march when apparently its back to normal... oh logic... does it hurt? it does, doesnt it

so if it's not in shortage right now and not the week after and after and so on somehow the numbers will be back to normal in march yeah right, whenever the 360 will be in third people will clame shortage but if it's first it magically won't be(look at the past worldwide thread and the one from this week you will see a shortage of shortage comments)



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Metallicube said:
kingofwale said:

i normally like to comment on sales number. after all, this is a tracking website.

 

however, with VGC's 'preference' on a console and then having to go back time and time again to adjust it down. What's the point of commenting?

I agree the constant adjusting (in large amounts in some cases) makes the discussing of the sales seem pretty pointless when there is such a high margin for error.. I heard the 360 was adjusted down like over a million units??

But it's better than nothing, and there are no better alternative at the present time, at least for free.

lol at the fact that the 360 was as much as 1million overtracked in the first place, but didn't alot of people including me say that x360 was selling more on here than it had on shelves, and you wonder why sites don't take vgc seriously, 1m is more than 10% overtracking

anyway i dont believe thees numbers especially seen as ms already declared shortages





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chapset said:

so if it's not in shortage right now and not the week after and after and so on somehow the numbers will be back to normal in march yeah right, whenever the 360 will be in third people will clame shortage but if it's first it magically won't be(look at the past worldwide thread and the one from this week you will see a shortage of shortage comments)

well japan is rather high for ps3 then usual and higher for wii so it will be down by march so i dont know why it will be 3rd.... sorry i dont understand your thinking.



 

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I never thought it would sell big on PS3 but def not this low. I do think timed exclusives work out in MS' favour, why people say they don't is just bs. I don't recall any games that sold well after coming out a year or two later; and MS gets a mountain of sales for their 'exclusive'.



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jneul said:
Metallicube said:
kingofwale said:

i normally like to comment on sales number. after all, this is a tracking website.

 

however, with VGC's 'preference' on a console and then having to go back time and time again to adjust it down. What's the point of commenting?

I agree the constant adjusting (in large amounts in some cases) makes the discussing of the sales seem pretty pointless when there is such a high margin for error.. I heard the 360 was adjusted down like over a million units??

But it's better than nothing, and there are no better alternative at the present time, at least for free.

lol at the fact that the 360 was as much as 1million overtracked in the first place, but didn't alot of people including me say that x360 was selling more on here than it had on shelves, and you wonder why sites don't take vgc seriously, 1m is more than 10% overtracking

anyway i dont believe thees numbers especially seen as ms already declared shortages



Correct me if Im wrong, but didn't the PS3 see a massive adjustment down as well? Not as much as the 360, but definitely a big amount. I remember the difference yesterday being 3.7 million worldwide after the first adjustment, and now it says a 4.2 million WW difference and the 360 number doesn't seem to have changed since yesterday. If so, that means the PS3 saw around a million drop. 

Not saying your point about the overtracking is wrong, I just found it interesting that you singled out the 360.


Anyway, a shortage is when supply doesn't meet demand. You can still sell shit loads of systems and have a shortage. Prime example being the Wii back when it was selling by the millions and yet it was damn near impossible to find one in stores.



Dianko said:
jneul said:
Metallicube said:
kingofwale said:

i normally like to comment on sales number. after all, this is a tracking website.

 

however, with VGC's 'preference' on a console and then having to go back time and time again to adjust it down. What's the point of commenting?

I agree the constant adjusting (in large amounts in some cases) makes the discussing of the sales seem pretty pointless when there is such a high margin for error.. I heard the 360 was adjusted down like over a million units??

But it's better than nothing, and there are no better alternative at the present time, at least for free.

lol at the fact that the 360 was as much as 1million overtracked in the first place, but didn't alot of people including me say that x360 was selling more on here than it had on shelves, and you wonder why sites don't take vgc seriously, 1m is more than 10% overtracking

anyway i dont believe thees numbers especially seen as ms already declared shortages



Correct me if Im wrong, but didn't the PS3 see a massive adjustment down as well? Not as much as the 360, but definitely a big amount. I remember the difference yesterday being 3.7 million worldwide after the first adjustment, and now it says a 4.2 million WW difference and the 360 number doesn't seem to have changed since yesterday. If so, that means the PS3 saw around a million drop.

Not saying your point about the overtracking is wrong, I just found it interesting that you singled out the 360.


Anyway, a shortage is when supply doesn't meet demand. You can still sell shit loads of systems and have a shortage. Prime example being the Wii back when it was selling by the millions and yet it was damn near impossible to find one in stores.

The adjustments this week in EMEAA was:

PS3 UP 100k
360 DOWN 300k
Wii DOWN 600k

The difference about in the GAP from 3.9m to 4.1m was because the PS3 UP down from 200k to 100k and 360 DOWN up from 400k to 300k.



chapset said:

people being claiming shortage since the beginning of the year, you guys need to get your shortage excuse right, what will you do if next week the 360 sell the same amount and do the same the week after that??


What do we need to claim?  Could be that MS was able to replenish faster, could be that this is the natural level for this time of year. It isnt like the numbers are bad.  It is like last year. Sony said shortages and the Sony faithful kept pushing that, but the PS3 never did start selling more once the shortages were over.

I just have passed on what Microsoft said and that was the ran out in December (and if you watched the thread devoted to Xbox supply in December that was pretty apparent) and then when air shipped units arrived for the last week before Christmas all of a sudden there was decent supply.   Yet those air shipped units werent put on boats. Thus MS also said it could be hard to find 360s late January to mid February and they hope to be back to normal retail levels by March.  Key is they said it "could be hard to find".



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

ethomaz said:
Mordred11 said:

GT5 holding worse than GT4,maybe it's because it sold better in the first 7 weeks?

What?

GT5 Week 9: 23,187
GT4 Week 9: 20,685

GT5 was doing better than GT4 in Americas... inclusive cumulative.

I didn't understand until now why people here thinks GT5 is doing worst than GT4... because for now it is tracking ahead GT4.

I was talking Worldwide.Couldn't care less if it does worse than GT4 in the Americas.



CGI-Quality said:
Mordred11 said:

 

GT5 holding worse than GT4,maybe it's because it sold better in the first 7 weeks?

O.o GT5 sold more this week than GT4 did in it's 9th week...

Lol it seems I should have specified the term WW.