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megaman79 on 29 January 2011
axt113 said:

The good news is Nintendo realizes their mistake in 2010, now hopefully they will make sure 2011 has some killer apps


I think they genuinely believed that MH3, and other third parties, alongside Wii Party and DK, would be enough. The reality is that they've probably reached a saturation point with the Wii.

Khuutra said:
KungKras said:

Wait?!

DKC isn't a killer app?

Not even close.

I dk about that. System seller? probably not. Killer App? Its fucking sold more than Twilight Princess in about the same period of time.



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axt113 on 29 January 2011

TP was never a killer app

 

They haven't reached saturation point withthe Wii, what they have reached is a point where their old evergreen titles are not enough to push interest alone, they need a mega hit like Wii sports or NSMB



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killeryoshis on 30 January 2011

Nintendo will make motion plus titles to boast sales, If that doesn't work all is lost



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trestres on 30 January 2011
axt113 said:

The good news is Nintendo realizes their mistake in 2010, now hopefully they will make sure 2011 has some killer apps


Iwata has been saying that since 2009 after the terrible drought through that year and the terrible 2008 holiday lineup. And guess what? Sales have been going down since. It's out of their control. Wii will not go up again in sales.



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axt113 on 30 January 2011
trestres said:
axt113 said:

The good news is Nintendo realizes their mistake in 2010, now hopefully they will make sure 2011 has some killer apps


Iwata has been saying that since 2009 after the terrible drought through that year and the terrible 2008 holiday lineup. And guess what? Sales have been going down since. It's out of their control. Wii will not go up again in sales.


No, its not out of their control, its completely withn their control, they just haven't done it, we saw with NSMB, that they can still hit record sales with the right software, they just didn't follow it up with anything afterwards, they didn't keep the NSMB momentum going with other software, Other M and Galaxy and Skyward are jokes, those types of games aren't going to move systems, two of them already flopped, they need to maintain momentum from their big titles, and they haven't done that these past few years, which is why we've seen sales slowly sink.



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Don86 on 30 January 2011

No worries, they are still at the top of the pack!



trestres on 30 January 2011
axt113 said:
trestres said:
axt113 said:

The good news is Nintendo realizes their mistake in 2010, now hopefully they will make sure 2011 has some killer apps


Iwata has been saying that since 2009 after the terrible drought through that year and the terrible 2008 holiday lineup. And guess what? Sales have been going down since. It's out of their control. Wii will not go up again in sales.


No, its not out of their control, its completely withn their control, they just haven't done it, we saw with NSMB, that they can still hit record sales with the right software, they just didn't follow it up with anything afterwards, they didn't keep the NSMB momentum going with other software, Other M and Galaxy and Skyward are jokes, those types of games aren't going to move systems, two of them already flopped, they need to maintain momentum from their big titles, and they haven't done that these past few years, which is why we've seen sales slowly sink.

It's out of their control. Mainly because there is competition. And also, if they want to garner so much attention towards the 3DS it's safe to assume Wii will lose a big part of the spotlight it still had. Kinect and now the 3DS and the NGP are going to undoubtedly take away attention from the Wii. This years line up is way worse than last year, so it seems that Nintendo didn't learn a thing from their mistakes.

In fact I think that Nintendo will solely focus on the Wii with big titles on the Holiday season from now on. Just take a look at sales from this year vs. sales from last year. Wii is already in a big decline and there's absolutely nothing coming up in the first half of the year for the West, save for Mario Sports Mix which isn't even that big and will not make an impact in HW. There's no 3rd party SW nor 1 st party SW. Zelda: SS is a Q4 title at the earliest and then the schedule is empty.

Are you sure they learnt from their mistakes? Market has already shifted and is losing interet in the console, that's out of their control and there's no reversing that.



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axt113 on 30 January 2011

^The competition has little effect on Wii sales, the biggest effect on Wii sales is Nintendo itself

Kinect did little tothe Wii, even with its supposedly huge launch and the Wii;s disappointing year in 2010, the Wii easily beat the 360

Nintendo always announces things at E3, so we have no idea how good its lineup is yet

If the market has shifted and other consoles are now the interest, then why is Wii still winning with ease?

 

 



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Kenology on 30 January 2011

Of course Nintendo has a big holiday game scheduled for end of 2011.  The game has certainly been in development for a while now... we just won't know what it is untile E3 or whatever. 

Really, a lot of this stuff is just alarmist.  Ninty says they don't have a big hit for end-of-the-year.  That's a lie.  Nintendo says they don't have a hit the size of NSMBWii for the end of 2011.  That's truly believeable.



Squilliam on 30 January 2011
Smashchu2 said:

Which would only be more reason to drop the line all together. It's not making the company money. All it is doing is taking the profits of the other departments and eating it all away, lowing their net income.

Nintendo, with less assets compaired to Sony, would be better off trying to increase sales of the Wii and release bigger software rather than spend much more resources to make a new system and hope it has the same success as the Wii. With a company who only makes games, launching a console is risky. Again, the reason they would rather try to increase Wii sales rather than to bet the farm on a new system, especially when 2009 has shown potential for the Wii and the software does amazingly well.

Increasing the sales of a console after it closes in on 100M sales is easier said than done. Theres a reason why new consoles are released because saturation is one of the hardest things to fight in any industry. At this point it is the only realistic way they'll increase their console revenue to 2008 levels.

As for Sony, well, they probably will make more money going forward if they continue the PS3 line than if they released a new console or exited the console market. All things relative Sony will be better off keeping the PS3 going whilst Nintendo will probably only improve their fortunes with a new console.




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