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3:00 a.m they cut electricity supply to big areas in Cairo. 10 dead people so far and over 600 people were arrested..

Metro stations stopped yesterday.

Facebook and twitter were blocked/unblocked several times today, Mobinil, vodafone and etisalat ,companys that provides cell phone coverage, was forced to stop their services in several areas.

Aljazzera reporters were arrested and media blockage continues.

Religifags (fuck those) continue to tell people to stay home and how it is HARAM to go against the authority and that Mohammed told them not to.

this picture is from yesterday.. Cairo never looked so beautiful.



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Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.



ManusJustus said:

Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.

Which is why it is happening there, and not in the places it should first. Who do you think is behind this? Yet another Iran satellite in the making. What will replace the current regime in Egypt will be far worse, and definitely not a democracy...



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bmmb1 said:
ManusJustus said:

Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.

Which is why it is happening there, and not in the places it should first. Who do you think is behind this? Yet another Iran satellite in the making. What will replace the current regime in Egypt will be far worse, and definitely not a democracy...

Egypt is Sunni while Iran is Shia. Egypt is Arab while Iran is Persian. The Iranians are very unlikely to dominate Egypt. In fact the largest Islamist group in Egypt will almost certainly be the Muslim Brotherhood, which is not linked to Iran.



Rath said:
bmmb1 said:
ManusJustus said:

Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.

Which is why it is happening there, and not in the places it should first. Who do you think is behind this? Yet another Iran satellite in the making. What will replace the current regime in Egypt will be far worse, and definitely not a democracy...

Egypt is Sunni while Iran is Shia. Egypt is Arab while Iran is Persian. The Iranians are very unlikely to dominate Egypt. In fact the largest Islamist group in Egypt will almost certainly be the Muslim Brotherhood, which is not linked to Iran.


And even that is iffy... as the protests AREN'T being led by them, and they get some hate for playing in to the puppet regime.

They might actually end up with a democracy just due to the lack of a strong leader that can quell most of the dissidents with their leading.



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Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
bmmb1 said:
ManusJustus said:

Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.

Which is why it is happening there, and not in the places it should first. Who do you think is behind this? Yet another Iran satellite in the making. What will replace the current regime in Egypt will be far worse, and definitely not a democracy...

Egypt is Sunni while Iran is Shia. Egypt is Arab while Iran is Persian. The Iranians are very unlikely to dominate Egypt. In fact the largest Islamist group in Egypt will almost certainly be the Muslim Brotherhood, which is not linked to Iran.


And even that is iffy... as the protests AREN'T being led by them, and they get some hate for playing in to the puppet regime.

They might actually end up with a democracy just due to the lack of a strong leader that can quell most of the dissidents with their leading.

Well they aren't involved in the protests so you're right there, but they have never played into the puppet regime. That's the reason why they're outlawed in Egypt.



Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
bmmb1 said:
ManusJustus said:

Currently, Egypt is the best state in the Middle East.  They are the last on my last of Middle Eastern countries needing a revolution.

Which is why it is happening there, and not in the places it should first. Who do you think is behind this? Yet another Iran satellite in the making. What will replace the current regime in Egypt will be far worse, and definitely not a democracy...

Egypt is Sunni while Iran is Shia. Egypt is Arab while Iran is Persian. The Iranians are very unlikely to dominate Egypt. In fact the largest Islamist group in Egypt will almost certainly be the Muslim Brotherhood, which is not linked to Iran.


And even that is iffy... as the protests AREN'T being led by them, and they get some hate for playing in to the puppet regime.

They might actually end up with a democracy just due to the lack of a strong leader that can quell most of the dissidents with their leading.

Well they aren't involved in the protests so you're right there, but they have never played into the puppet regime. That's the reason why they're outlawed in Egypt.

Yeah, the Muslim Brotherhood is banned in Egypt, so they can only gain by this revolution.  I'm not sure they are playing a big role in it though, lets hope this is a grass roots democracy movement that leads to a liberal democracy.



Fully mixed feelings.

On one end, Egypt was a pretty benevolent dictatorship. Honsi Mubarak was certainly imperfect, but given his peers in the region, he looked like a saint: Made peace with Israel, never attacked anyone, never let the terrorists have their way in the region, and is generally (in my view) 'good'.

On the other end...It was still an authoritarian government, which likely was not the will of the people.

I worry what will become of this. I pray to God that if there is a revolution, they get a secular, Turkey-like Democracy that will strengthen ties with the west, and let people live in peace, and be very moderate to liberal for a Muslim-dominated state.

However, it seems that revolutions in the middle east are rarely a good thing :-

Worst yet, they are second or third in terms of US military support and aid. I would hate to see their M1 tanks turn on Israel, Turkey or other sane powers in the region.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Well the West will be largely to blame if any new Egyptian government turns its back on them. The West is happy to talk about democracy and even invade a few countries they don't like - but if there is a dictator playing nice they positively back them, no matter how much they violate their citizens human rights.

Any new Arab democracy will not be a fan of the West, and the Wests hypocrisy is to blame.



mrstickball said:

I pray to God...

Pray in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first...

Full accolades to Egyptians and Tunisians.  They are very brave for what they are doing, I couldn't imagine doing such a drastic measure that could restult in death and torture at any time.