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LordTheNightKnight said:

It's based on the concept of "box office poison", where it's noted that an element in a film is so disliked, usually an unpopular actor, that audiences will stay away from a film just because of that element. Take a film by Uwe Boll is box office poison. Thus if 3D turns out that way, and in any medium that has it, then potentially Nintendo would have to distance the 3D aspect of the system to avoid losing the mainstream.

The consumer market reaction to 3D beyond the 3DS is irrelevant.  It's a closed system with software independant of other entertainment mediums.   The market could hate theater 3D and have virtually no impact on the consumer intake rate of the 3DS.  In fact, it was noted prior to E3 last year that the 3D movie ticket sales were dropping pretty heavily suggesting that people were already losing interest in theatrical 3D yet the 3DS was a certifiable hit at E3 right as 3D mvoies were doing their worst at the box office.

Besides, the early reports of the 3DS 3D are so overwhelmingly positive that it's not likely that people will suddenly not like it anymore to the point that Nintendo will go to the efforts to release a 3D-less 3DS.

Your hypothetical situations are illogical, make dubious leaps of association, require you to ignore reality and are supported by absolutely no evidence whatsoever.   And then have the audacity to suggest all our counterpoints are flawed?  



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TheGameFather said:

ah you're just a troll looking for attention, got it.


That response is more trolling than anything I did.



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Woo! I'd definitely buy the Nintendo S!



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Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

It's based on the concept of "box office poison", where it's noted that an element in a film is so disliked, usually an unpopular actor, that audiences will stay away from a film just because of that element. Take a film by Uwe Boll is box office poison. Thus if 3D turns out that way, and in any medium that has it, then potentially Nintendo would have to distance the 3D aspect of the system to avoid losing the mainstream.

The consumer market reaction to 3D beyond the 3DS is irrelevant.  It's a closed system with software independant of other entertainment mediums.   The market could hate theater 3D and have virtually no impact on the consumer intake rate of the 3DS.  In fact, it was noted prior to E3 last year that the 3D movie ticket sales were dropping pretty heavily suggesting that people were already losing interest in theatrical 3D yet the 3DS was a certifiable hit at E3 right as 3D mvoies were doing their worst at the box office.

Besides, the early reports of the 3DS 3D are so overwhelmingly positive that it's not likely that people will suddenly not like it anymore to the point that Nintendo will go to the efforts to release a 3D-less 3DS.

Your hypothetical situations are illogical, make dubious leaps of association, require you to ignore reality and are supported by absolutely no evidence whatsoever.   And then have the audacity to suggest all our counterpoints are flawed?  


Um, have you noticed a lot of increasing complaints from people online and in real life about 3D? It's not everywhere, but it's growing. Granted, I should have mentioned that earlier, but it's there.

Also how is it illogical to assume that if something drives consumers away, it would be best to remove that element from a product? That's a common business practice for when fads or failed markets happen (although many do it the wrong way).

As for the early responses, that is because the bubble hasn't burst yet. The point of a hypothetical future situation is that the present doesn't always indicate the future. Also, people entranced by novelties have often gushed about them at first.

I'm admitting it might not happen that way, but you're refusing to admit it might happn. You're assuming just because people like it now that it's impossible for them to get sick of it later. You're also assuming that just because the 3DS uses a different system that it's immune from a bubble bursting. Those don't work that way. Bubbles at least have some effect on anything involved in it during a burst.

And you're spewing basically the same reasoning that was said against the housing bubble bursting in its days, or the .com bubble (and just because not every .com failed doesn't mean others were not hurt or didn't have to change to survive).

Just because the response is good now does not mean it's impossible to change. Not saying it will change, just that it CAN.



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Doubt it. Marketing campaing is based on that.



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Pavolink said:

Doubt it. Marketing campaing is based on that.


I didn't mean the marketing now.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Pavolink said:

Doubt it. Marketing campaing is based on that.


I didn't mean the marketing now.

Yeah, I know. But how do you think they'll market this one or two years later without the 3D?



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Viper1 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

^^^ Again, the 3D will not actually add to the game. The touchscreen did. And any game that can't be played with the 3D off is going to have problems with people who prefer the 3D off on their games.

^^ You're assuming that tech is what makes competion, not games?

^ You're assuming that newer games people want won't be enough?

You all are falling for the gimmick. Is't the games that will sell this system. The 3D will not add to them. You can't play Elite Beat Agents without the touch screen, so that actually added to the game. That will not be the case with a gimmick that only adds to the visuals, not the content.

You do know that several developers have already publically stated they plan to use 3D as a gamplay element, don't you?

I agree it's a key feature rather than just a gimmick.

And while I fully expect a lot of early efforts (and even later titles throughout the 3DS lifespan) to use the 3D feature as just a gimmick, I also know that there will be developers who will specifically utilize the effect for vital game play elements. Whether that's to make the games more natural to play due to the perception advantage or other, more clever elements is entirely up to developers.



Pavolink said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Pavolink said:

Doubt it. Marketing campaing is based on that.


I didn't mean the marketing now.

Yeah, I know. But how do you think they'll market this one or two years later without the 3D?


Assuming there is a 3D bubble burst (again, I'm basing this on that occuring, not claiming this is a certainty), then Nintendo might rename the system if anything with 3D in the name loses sales. They might call this new version the "Super DS" or something like that. As they would just make it clear it's "compabitle" with 3DS games, just without the 3D.

Yes, that seems crazy now, it's just on the assumption it might happen.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

This won't happen because the 3D can be turned off with the slider. If Nintendo needs to up sales, they'll cut the price, release new colors, and rely on software that sells the hardware LONG before they do something as illogical as cutting the 3D off entirely with a newer model.