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oniyide said:

@conegamer  has it ever occured to you that antabus might not be liking the 3DS line up so far??? Im not too crazy about it myself (too many remakes)

No, never

...

Of course it has. A lineup of games will always have fans who like it, and those who don't. If you don't like it, then fine. Personally, the lineup is K for me, but I love Layton, Paper Mario and Resident Evil, and look forward to playing OoT again, (haven't played it in 7 years!) and Lylat wars for the first time. I'm still not a fan of the 360 lineup really, far, far too many shooters for my liking, which makes the 360 crowd rather narrow-minded, so there doesn't seem to be many games which aren't shooters or M-rated really, which are qualtiy

The Wii may not have as many quality shooters (but with Goldeneye, Conduit 2 under its name it's certainly appealing!) but there's a large bandwidth of games, from shooters to action to racing to strategy to RPG to party, ad this trend looks set to continue (The Last Story, Xenoblade, DQX to bulk out the RPG's, Conduit 2 to add to the exclusive shooters, Legend Of Zelda to ad the the exclusive adventure games and many more!)

The reason for this I feel is due to the lower production costs. Do you reckon if The Last Story  was on the 360 it would be as open-ended? Same for FF13 on the Wii. Perhaps it would be more free-roaming, I don't know

Onto the 3DS lineup, this trend is set to continue from last year into this, quality 3rd and 1st party exclusives, and also some of the bigger multiplat games. The Wii will never be seen in the light it deserves, due to its lower processing power, and therefore not so many mulitplat games. But don't take anything away from it. It's the console, in my eyes, which has the widest spectrum of games (both in quality and genres). I expect the 3DS to continue this trend. That's why I think I will get one if the price is right

 

(Should this have been in my OP?)



 

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Antabus said:
Conegamer said:
Antabus said:
Conegamer said:
Antabus said:

300€ is way too much for a Nintendo console for me, 50€ is something what I might consider. IF there are some good games on the console.

Oh boy, here we go...

Do you buy consoles because of the games or why?

Of course I buy consoles because of the games, it would be stupid to suggest otherwise. 

I'm just saying the Wii and DS have some great games, and the 3DS has a great line-up. So I'm expecting a Nintendo-fanboy to backlash on this comment, so brace yourself!

 

What would you buy a console for if not for the games?

Uhh, for the games of course. That is why I will be extra careful about buying a Nintendo console again.

edit:

And if you enjoy the wii lineup, good for you. It is just not for me. I am now sure of that. (waiting for TLS though)

I understand. It's difficult to like the Wii lineup if you didn't get one from the start. It very much splits opinion, but at least you have it and gave it a go!

TLS should be legendary though!

(out of interest, what is your favourite genre anyway?)



 

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Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:

gaming is expensive!

about the 3ds's price, its going to do terrible in my country.

Why? what country do you live in?

Remember people said this about the Wii, and I recently said it about Kinect, so surprises DO happen!

(Also, Gojimaster, I expect the price to be from £170-£210, no more! That's my limits anyway, unless the launch line-up is amazing, but that's a different thread altogether! Or is it?)

lebanon, since things here never get a price cut and since we have high prices its retail price will about 450 dollars.

currently the ds light is at 250.

Ouch. That's pretty bad man...

Yeah, but at least there will be the option to HAVE the 3DS there, and, well, you never know...


what do you mean? stop dissing my counrty! we have virgin here! yeah thats right a big retailer from the uk!

also my country is responsible for 50% of the pirated copies of counter strike.

Woah, don't take it the wrong way! i've never been so I wouldn't know, but I'm sure it's a very nice place to live

Yeah, virgin's pretty big (we have Virgin Broadband for example), but I'm not sure the second point is necessarily a good thing


yes it is! it comes to show that gaming is big here when it comes to the manstream games.



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

Conegamer said:

I understand. It's difficult to like the Wii lineup if you didn't get one from the start. It very much splits opinion, but at least you have it and gave it a go!

TLS should be legendary though!

(out of interest, what is your favourite genre anyway?)


I think my dislike of Wii lineup is more due my computer gaming background, I am not that fond of those "traditional" console games, unless it is competitive (Tekken/DOA/Sports games, racers). One console genre I like is jprg:s, those turn based traditional ones especially.

If TLS is anything like LO, it will be.

I guess it is rpg:s, preferrably western ones.



Antabus said:
Conegamer said:

I understand. It's difficult to like the Wii lineup if you didn't get one from the start. It very much splits opinion, but at least you have it and gave it a go!

TLS should be legendary though!

(out of interest, what is your favourite genre anyway?)


I think my dislike of Wii lineup is more due my computer gaming background, I am not that fond of those "traditional" console games, unless it is competitive (Tekken/DOA/Sports games, racers). One console genre I like is jprg:s, those turn based traditional ones especially.

If TLS is anything like LO, it will be.

I guess it is rpg:s, preferrably western ones.

I understand this issue. I know many people who fall into the same bracket, and so I can easily understand the sort of games you'd like

Thought about Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii? (NOT a shameless plug for my new thread!) Also, Oblivion and Fallout 3 for the 360/PC are good as well!

(Is this thread de-railing?)



 

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zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:

gaming is expensive!

about the 3ds's price, its going to do terrible in my country.

Why? what country do you live in?

Remember people said this about the Wii, and I recently said it about Kinect, so surprises DO happen!

(Also, Gojimaster, I expect the price to be from £170-£210, no more! That's my limits anyway, unless the launch line-up is amazing, but that's a different thread altogether! Or is it?)

lebanon, since things here never get a price cut and since we have high prices its retail price will about 450 dollars.

currently the ds light is at 250.

Ouch. That's pretty bad man...

Yeah, but at least there will be the option to HAVE the 3DS there, and, well, you never know...


what do you mean? stop dissing my counrty! we have virgin here! yeah thats right a big retailer from the uk!

also my country is responsible for 50% of the pirated copies of counter strike.

Woah, don't take it the wrong way! i've never been so I wouldn't know, but I'm sure it's a very nice place to live

Yeah, virgin's pretty big (we have Virgin Broadband for example), but I'm not sure the second point is necessarily a good thing


yes it is! it comes to show that gaming is big here when it comes to the manstream games.

True. But Counter-Strike's piracy rate isn't something to gloat about, even if it shows gaming is a big thing in your country!

(I never knew this site had people from so many different parts of the world on!)



 

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Conegamer said:
Antabus said:


I think my dislike of Wii lineup is more due my computer gaming background, I am not that fond of those "traditional" console games, unless it is competitive (Tekken/DOA/Sports games, racers). One console genre I like is jprg:s, those turn based traditional ones especially.

If TLS is anything like LO, it will be.

I guess it is rpg:s, preferrably western ones.

I understand this issue. I know many people who fall into the same bracket, and so I can easily understand the sort of games you'd like

Thought about Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii? (NOT a shameless plug for my new thread!) Also, Oblivion and Fallout 3 for the 360/PC are good as well!

(Is this thread de-railing?)

Yea, especially FO3 was awesome. MH3 looks too much like a hack'n'slash game and what I've heard there is virtually no story involved. I remember also reading that there is no leveling up. Does not sound something I'd like. MAYBE when it is a lot cheaper..

Do you need the classic controller for that game? :P



Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:
Conegamer said:
zgamer5 said:

gaming is expensive!

about the 3ds's price, its going to do terrible in my country.

Why? what country do you live in?

Remember people said this about the Wii, and I recently said it about Kinect, so surprises DO happen!

(Also, Gojimaster, I expect the price to be from £170-£210, no more! That's my limits anyway, unless the launch line-up is amazing, but that's a different thread altogether! Or is it?)

lebanon, since things here never get a price cut and since we have high prices its retail price will about 450 dollars.

currently the ds light is at 250.

Ouch. That's pretty bad man...

Yeah, but at least there will be the option to HAVE the 3DS there, and, well, you never know...


what do you mean? stop dissing my counrty! we have virgin here! yeah thats right a big retailer from the uk!

also my country is responsible for 50% of the pirated copies of counter strike.

Woah, don't take it the wrong way! i've never been so I wouldn't know, but I'm sure it's a very nice place to live

Yeah, virgin's pretty big (we have Virgin Broadband for example), but I'm not sure the second point is necessarily a good thing


yes it is! it comes to show that gaming is big here when it comes to the manstream games.

True. But Counter-Strike's piracy rate isn't something to gloat about, even if it shows gaming is a big thing in your country!

(I never knew this site had people from so many different parts of the world on!)


yes thie site has many people from all over the world.

currently my country has no government :)



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

Antabus said:
Conegamer said:
Antabus said:


I think my dislike of Wii lineup is more due my computer gaming background, I am not that fond of those "traditional" console games, unless it is competitive (Tekken/DOA/Sports games, racers). One console genre I like is jprg:s, those turn based traditional ones especially.

If TLS is anything like LO, it will be.

I guess it is rpg:s, preferrably western ones.

I understand this issue. I know many people who fall into the same bracket, and so I can easily understand the sort of games you'd like

Thought about Monster Hunter Tri for the Wii? (NOT a shameless plug for my new thread!) Also, Oblivion and Fallout 3 for the 360/PC are good as well!

(Is this thread de-railing?)

Yea, especially FO3 was awesome. MH3 looks too much like a hack'n'slash game and what I've heard there is virtually no story involved. I remember also reading that there is no leveling up. Does not sound something I'd like. MAYBE when it is a lot cheaper..

Do you need the classic controller for that game? :P

No, not really. I'd say it's improved, because I started with the CCPro. If you can find someone who only uses the Wiimote then ask them, but the vast majority of people use the CCPro because it was designed for the game

MHTri is only something you can experience by playing it. Extensively. The first 5-6 hours I hated the game, and after the story (35 hours) I thought "that was good, not great, time to move on". But I decided to boot up the online first for a quick go. 

Now I've played it for over 250 hours and am level 48 (Maximun is 999, final quests unlock at 55). So if you're looking for an online game then Tri is the way to go. It's sorta like Shadow of The colossus meets Oblivion, which is why it's now my favourite game ever (for better, and for worse). Most people will say once you "get" it (i.e. once you understand the premise and enjoy it) you won't ever need another game. This is an over-exaggeration, but I've played very little other than it since its release nearly a year ago. Since you can now get it used for around £20 I'd say that's a sound investment, but I'd go either onto my new thread, talk to people on this site, or real life friends who have it first, and read review, because you either"get" it or you don't. You need to make sure you know which camp you're in

You don't level up in the conventional sense. You fight enemies, and take rewards at the end of the quest to build new weapons, armour, gems (to improve skills) etc.  You may say the main thing levelling up is you, because it takes serious skill, and even with the same weapons as someone else at a lower rank, you'll always prevail. Online, you also achieve "HR" which are like XP on COD, apart from so much more important. Different areas, monsters, weapons, guilds, players etc. only open when you've made a certain amount, so you need to have time to play it

That ok?

(Fallout 3 is legendary)



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Conegamer said:
Antabus said:

Yea, especially FO3 was awesome. MH3 looks too much like a hack'n'slash game and what I've heard there is virtually no story involved. I remember also reading that there is no leveling up. Does not sound something I'd like. MAYBE when it is a lot cheaper..

Do you need the classic controller for that game? :P

No, not really. I'd say it's improved, because I started with the CCPro. If you can find someone who only uses the Wiimote then ask them, but the vast majority of people use the CCPro because it was designed for the game

MHTri is only something you can experience by playing it. Extensively. The first 5-6 hours I hated the game, and after the story (35 hours) I thought "that was good, not great, time to move on". But I decided to boot up the online first for a quick go. 

Now I've played it for over 250 hours and am level 48 (Maximun is 999, final quests unlock at 55). So if you're looking for an online game then Tri is the way to go. It's sorta like Shadow of The colossus meets Oblivion, which is why it's now my favourite game ever (for better, and for worse). Most people will say once you "get" it (i.e. once you understand the premise and enjoy it) you won't ever need another game. This is an over-exaggeration, but I've played very little other than it since its release nearly a year ago. Since you can now get it used for around £20 I'd say that's a sound investment, but I'd go either onto my new thread, talk to people on this site, or real life friends who have it first, and read review, because you either"get" it or you don't. You need to make sure you know which camp you're in

You don't level up in the conventional sense. You fight enemies, and take rewards at the end of the quest to build new weapons, armour, gems (to improve skills) etc.  You may say the main thing levelling up is you, because it takes serious skill, and even with the same weapons as someone else at a lower rank, you'll always prevail. Online, you also achieve "HR" which are like XP on COD, apart from so much more important. Different areas, monsters, weapons, guilds, players etc. only open when you've made a certain amount, so you need to have time to play it

That ok?

(Fallout 3 is legendary)

I guess you are trying to promote the game. ;P

But seriously, thanks for the information. Even though this is offtopic, I'll reply (your own thread):

I don't think I can play a game which I hate for 5 hours. It has to make a good impression pretty soon. I hated SotC and somehow I get the feeling this game is more like SotC than Oblivion. I also don't have any real life friends who own a Wii and I don't trust people on these forums at all when it comes to games. :P

But you make a good case for the game. I don't have any online games on Wii so... maybe when it will be cheaper. It is 50€ with the classic controller now and that is too much for a tryout-game.