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A bit of an exaggeration, :P, but I seriously think that 360 would actually be pulling somewhat respectable numbers in Japan if Kinect had been released earlier. I mean, right now, 360's a hopeless case and the Japanese market has already pretty much given up on it. Back in 2006, there was still hope, and, as Kinect's current sales show, the Japanese market is willing to buy it. Back then, a new peripheral from MS would be treated with (more) interest and it still stood a chance of selling 360s as WiiS3 hadn't completely cannibalized the market.



 

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i am glad to see this happen, hopefully it can achieve 300k plus lifetime in sales. :)



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Immortal said:

This has been the biggest surprise for me over the holidays. I can't believe how big Kinect is (relatively) in Japan.

I'm willing to bet that, had Kinect released in 2006, PS3 and 360 would be neck and neck in LTD sales in Japan right now.

Since Kinect hasn't really had an effect on 360 HW in Japan,no...just no.


I think it could be a delayed hit, the original games imo are more to the western audience, the games need to sell it to MS base, then they can go for the other bases, England And the US are licking it up. Australia has taken it with open arms, in fact MS seems to be going all guns with Australia atm with the Foxtel alliance in australia now. A mate that I have been trying to convince to get the 360 is now finally thinking about it. Though Kinect didnt make him :-/ he wanted to wait for more games.



 

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Seece said:
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Immortal said:

This has been the biggest surprise for me over the holidays. I can't believe how big Kinect is (relatively) in Japan.

I'm willing to bet that, had Kinect released in 2006, PS3 and 360 would be neck and neck in LTD sales in Japan right now.


Nah, I don't see it.  I really think - as I noted earlier in the thread - Kinect is selling well but to the existing install base.  Therefore I'm pretty sure if Kinect had released earlier it would actually have sold worse, as there would have been a smaller install base to appeal to.

There's just no sign of actual console sales picking up in any way as a result of Kinect in Japan, which means it's either selling to the existing base or PC hackers for the dubious uses already mentioned in the thread.

I still think all things considered Kinect is doing okay in Japan as at least it is selling, but it's really nothing to get excited about.  The LTD of 360 is still low all compared to other consoles, the LTD of Kinect in Japan is still very low compared to other territories.

The bottom line is I think the 360 peaked earlier in Japan with the timed exclusives and I don't think anything is going to reverse it's current state of selling steadily at a very low rate.

I agree with most of this, but I do think a spat of Japanese core games could give it a short term (1-2 month boost)

Didn't we see a similar uprising with PSP, and it started to do reallly well in Japan? Although it was never doing bad there in the first place.

NOTHING, will make 360 sell like a normal console there, I don't know anyone that expects that .. even lifetime FF franchise exclusives there wouldn't help it out past a few boosts around game releases.

Yeah, if Kinect could get a killer app for Japan, then it might have a chance of taking off.  I think the device - space concerns aside - would appeal in principle if it had a great game to drive it.  That's really what I think it's missing.  The current crop feel a bit too "Wii too" as it where and I don't think that works in Japan with the big Wii install base.  Similarly other titles are too Western - and we know such titles often don't appeal locally.

Something like Pokemon or a special FF only using gestures - imagine a Pokemon areana combat game where you throw the ball thing (sorry don't know much about Pokemon beyond the basics) then instruct your monster how to fight with guestures.  Something local and different enough to seperate Kinect from the Wii titles.

Like you I do tend to think there really is nothing that would truly change 360's fortunes in Japan, but I agree that the right titles can make a difference.  Look at the spikes 360 saw with the timed JRPG exclusives.  Clearly the right title will generate some demand locally - look at PSP once it had a few titles click locally.

I just think that Kinect doesn't have any titles capable of clicking like that specifically in Japan at the moment, and I'm not sure it will as the focus - which is understandable - seems to be on titles sure to appeal in US/Europe rather than Japan.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Did someone really suggest that had Kinect been released on launch it would have made 360 neck to neck with PS3?

*Mind implodes*

No chance in hell. Those 360 sales are abysmal, not even if the Samurais themselves ceritifed the product it would sell like PS3 does now, or did before.



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Immortal said:

A bit of an exaggeration, :P, but I seriously think that 360 would actually be pulling somewhat respectable numbers in Japan if Kinect had been released earlier. I mean, right now, 360's a hopeless case and the Japanese market has already pretty much given up on it. Back in 2006, there was still hope, and, as Kinect's current sales show, the Japanese market is willing to buy it. Back then, a new peripheral from MS would be treated with (more) interest and it still stood a chance of selling 360s as WiiS3 hadn't completely cannibalized the market.


If Microsoft wanted to succed in Japan they should have kept releasing exclusive jRPG every three months like they dis in 2008.

Sales of x360 died after Vesperia and never rose back to 2008 levels.



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I notice a lot of people tend to feel the 360 never got a fair shake in Japan. I think the blame lies on MS and their inability to fully grasp the likes of the Japanese market. It doesn't work like the US/UK where a few big exclusives can carry you for the year along with 3rd parties. You have to have something special to interest them and then keep their interest.



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Goddbless said:

I notice a lot of people tend to feel the 360 never got a fair shake in Japan. I think the blame lies on MS and their inability to fully grasp the likes of the Japanese market. It doesn't work like the US/UK where a few big exclusives can carry you for the year along with 3rd parties. You have to have something special to interest them and then keep their interest.

You hit it right on the head.  They needed to spend another 100 Million developing dozens of original games for japan.  They could have given most of these small releases here(US) in the $29-$39 price range to add to the library.  This might have only lost $40-50Million.  But could have tripled the sales til Kinect.   Thus giving Kinect a chance to be a game changer.