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silicon on 10 January 2011
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.



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LordTheNightKnight on 10 January 2011
silicon said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
silicon said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
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LordTheNightKnight said:
silicon said:

He's never played heavy rain apparently...


That's not really a Move game, even though it was meant for motion controls initially.


His quote mentioned identifying the best Move content. IMO that includes Heavy Rain.


It doesn't have the the labels for being a Move game. Opinions don't change that fact.

And calling it the best is dubious. Even its merits as a game aside (since that's a whole other argument), it's just a bunch of arbitrary motions in quick time event form. That isn't really much of the kind of motion control gaming that people flocked to.

He also mentioned that the games are all the same. Even if you hate the games they still don't play the same.

It is a problem that they didn't add the MOVE label. It's a marketing mistake on the part of SONY imo.

It may be a series of quick time events... but it's a lot of fun and the stories intense. That's just my opinion. The move controller actually makes the gameplay a lot more involved. Although these have nothing to do with the fact that it uses move, thus it is a move game.


Only if you download the patch. Out of the box, it's strictly controller. That seems like semantics, but I'm not even counting RE5 as a move game (especially since it forces early buyers for the PS3 version to buy the game twice).

Yeah... it doesn't count RE5. But RE5 is another game the he missed as a Move game.


It's not.



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Kenology on 10 January 2011
silicon said:
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.

That "counter" example makes no sense.

Heavy Rain and RE5 were NOT designed as Move games.  Hence their release prior to Move.  Move support was just shoehorned in.  When Reggie said what he did, I'm sure he had games like Sports Champions and The Shoot in mind - Move software designed around and launched along with the controller.



silicon on 10 January 2011
Kenology said:
silicon said:
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.

Really silly attempt at a counter example.

Heavy Rain and RE5 were NOT designed as Move games.  Hence their release prior to Move.  Move support was just shoehorned in.  When Reggie said what he did, I'm sure he had games like Sports Champions and The Shoot in mind - Move software designed around and launched along with the controller.

I just don't understand Troll logic =(

Btw I'm pretty sure Reggie would agree with me.



benao87 on 10 January 2011
silicon said:
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.


How did you get to that conclusion using his logic? O.o



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silicon on 10 January 2011
benao87 said:
silicon said:
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.


How did you get to that conclusion using his logic? O.o

If A was released before B and B is a control scheme for a game, then A cannot be identified using controller B, even if it is redesigned to use B.

In this case, A is Mass Effect 2 and B is the PS3 controller.

In the other case, A is Heavy Rain, and B is Move.

 





Kenology on 10 January 2011
silicon said:

I just don't understand Troll logic =(

Btw I'm pretty sure Reggie would agree with me.

I don't agree with you, and that therefore makes me a troll.  lol!  You would've done better by debating the point as opposed the lowering yourself to an ad hominem attack against me.

And I don't think Reggie would agree with you at all.  ;P



Darc Requiem on 10 January 2011
silicon said:
benao87 said:
silicon said:
Kenology said:

lol @ RE5 and Heavy Rain being Move games when they're were just patched to work with Move in restrospect.

You guys are getting desperate.


Using your logic, even though Mass Effect 2 is being released on PS3, Mass Effect 2 is not a PS3 game.


How did you get to that conclusion using his logic? O.o

If A was released before B and B is a control scheme for a game, then A cannot be identified using controller B, even if it is redesigned to use B.

In this case, A is Mass Effect 2 and B is the PS3 controller.

In the other case, A is Heavy Rain, and B is Move.

 

You obviously didn't understand his logic.



Acevil on 10 January 2011

This thread has really shown me two things: Ps3 fans are overly defensive (and I thought wii fans were getting bad....sony fans can always go lower), and Reggie can compliment other console titles.



 

zgamer5 on 10 January 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
zgamer5 said:
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PizzaFaceGamer said:
forest-spirit said:

Hold it. He talks about Move and Kinect without downplaying them!? Oh Reggie...

*disappointed*


He does slightly downplay MOVE by saying the software is "all the same"

Other than that...no fireworks


obviously he doesnt consider core games as real games, gamers dont play them, just grand pas and moms.


Um, there aren't really any such games on the Move right now. Or if there are already, they aren't really being hyped, and a lot of us haven't heard that there are.


resident evil 5 and heavy rain move editions say hello. theyr not move exclusive games, but they are move games considering they made a move edition.

so if a game isnt hyped or known its not a counted? that means that what 20 wii games came out this year?


They don't say that, since they didn't come out to be used with the Move. They were only patched later, even with the retail releases. Name a "core" game out right now that came out with Move compatibility right away. I know Killzone 3 will have it, but it's not out yet. I also know the latest SOCOM game has it, but I don't know if it's out yet.

And if a game isn't hyped or known, it's not a matter of it counting. It's a matter of people not knowing about it. If Reggie didn't know about the game, you can't blame him for therefor not metioning it.

but its still counted as a move game. as you can play it using move.

true, reggie isnt an obssesed gamer like us to know about every game.



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