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I wonder why some people think that the PS3'll have a bigger and more substancial price cut in the next months? The system is finally in black numbers. Why put it back in red again?



alfredofroylan said:

I wonder why some people think that the PS3'll have a bigger and more substancial price cut in the next months? The system is finally in black numbers. Why put it back in red again?


It's normal for people to expect Sony to stay in red indefinitely.



ps3 really just cant catch on in japan. it's sales are flat or down year over yer from 2009, and oftentimes it gets only 1 or 2 titles in the software top 30 amidst the hordes of ds and psp titles.



alfredofroylan said:

I wonder why some people think that the PS3'll have a bigger and more substancial price cut in the next months? The system is finally in black numbers. Why put it back in red again?

I believe there will be a price cut next year, though I'm not sure if it'll be quite that large, however...

1. By your logic, Sony wouldn't have dropped the price last time.  Yet much like last time, they're still in third place, and what momentum they had gained against their only surmountable competitor has now been lost due to Kinect.

2. SCE managed to shave ~$500 off the ps3's manufacturing cost between launch ($850) and the release of the Slim ($300-350).  We know the console's manufacturing costs had dipped even further as far back as last March, when Sony announced they were finally making a profit on each ps3 sold.  It's not unreasonable to believe they could be breaking even after a $100 drop by the end of next year, so they wouldn't necessarily be going into the red again, and even if they were, they likely wouldn't be doing it for very long.



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Carl2291 said:

Next year could be the closest year ever for home consoles...

I think it's looking pretty hopeless for both.  PS3's lineup is basically copy/paste of last year (minus GT5), and their only real hope is if Versus makes it or not (and even that probably won't be a real hardware mover).  Wii's looking pathetic as usual portfolio wise, only with weaker selling Nintendo titles at the helm (Zelda, Rhythm Heaven, Fatal Frame).  IF DQX doesn't launch in 2011, Wii's totally fucked imo.



jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

Next year could be the closest year ever for home consoles...

I think it's looking pretty hopeless for both.  PS3's lineup is basically copy/paste of last year (minus GT5), and their only real hope is if Versus makes it or not (and even that probably won't be a real hardware mover).  Wii's looking pathetic as usual portfolio wise, only with weaker selling Nintendo titles at the helm (Zelda, Rhythm Heaven, Fatal Frame).  IF DQX doesn't launch in 2011, Wii's totally fucked imo.

I think the Wii will probably get a bunch of games ported from the 3DS, I know that so far both lineups aren't looking too great though. Although Wii has the bigger advantage due to DQ... If it makes it out for the year. Versus wont be a hardware mover in Japan. If anywhere it will actually move Hardware in America/Europe if it stays exclusive.

Nino Kuni might boost PS3 sales a bit too, although pretty unlikely now after how the DS games has done.

I wouldn't be surprised at all though to see both stumble under the 10k point for some weeks.



                            

Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

Next year could be the closest year ever for home consoles...

I think it's looking pretty hopeless for both.  PS3's lineup is basically copy/paste of last year (minus GT5), and their only real hope is if Versus makes it or not (and even that probably won't be a real hardware mover).  Wii's looking pathetic as usual portfolio wise, only with weaker selling Nintendo titles at the helm (Zelda, Rhythm Heaven, Fatal Frame).  IF DQX doesn't launch in 2011, Wii's totally fucked imo.

I think the Wii will probably get a bunch of games ported from the 3DS, I know that so far both lineups aren't looking too great though. Although Wii has the bigger advantage due to DQ... If it makes it out for the year. Versus wont be a hardware mover in Japan. If anywhere it will actually move Hardware in America/Europe if it stays exclusive.

Nino Kuni might boost PS3 sales a bit too, although pretty unlikely now after how the DS games has done.

I wouldn't be surprised at all though to see both stumble under the 10k point for some weeks.

Really?  I'm honestly not really expecting anything to translate from 3DS to Wii... if 3DS develops a multiplatform ecosystem with anything, I think it'll be PSP.

I think Ninokuni's fucked, Hino's big book piracy cockblocker has turned into a big book sales cockblocker.  I think this and the original overshipment of IE3 are likely going to major damage to L5's rep with retailers too... six months ago they could do no wrong, but now it's been a rough 2nd half.  Unless they drop the book for the PS3 rev of Ninokuni, I think it'll do worse than the DS original. :/

And yeah, I think everything rests on DQX.  It's really the only console game I see potentially coming in 2011 that could move some significant home console hardware, but I also think it's effects could be blunted by the usual Wii malaise. Under 10k some weeks is guaranteed for both PS3 and Wii imo, Japan needs new hardware STAT.