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Which will sell more Lifetime: 360 or PSP?

PSP 70 35.90%
 
360 125 64.10%
 
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Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
nightsurge said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
nightsurge said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Sol said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

You just stated yourself why there random xD its based on info from last 2 or 3 months. I coudl base on past information that the PS360 could end up beating the wii LTD. Not saying it will but using same logic i could ^^


Of course, but in that case, I could counter your argument by looking at historical trends which showed that Wii always rises phenomenally during the holidays and how it had already done so last year in the exact same situation, outselling PS360 in the process. The PS360 situation, on the other hand, is always changing -- the only reason one starts gaining on the other is because the company does something to make it happen. It isn't "natural". With no real reason for PS3 to overtake the 360 randomly right now, and no information from Sony regarding a game changer that'll give them the lead again, there is currently no reason whatsoever to believe that PS3 will reduce the gap. 3 months or so ago, when Wii was performing loserishly, there was still plenty of reason (holidays) for Wii to outdo PS360 later on. That doesn't exist with PS3 for the moment.


The moral of this story is if you predict LTD sales of a console no matter what the figures i think your moderately stupid ^^ Know if you'll excuse me im not in the mood to argue with a 13 year old at 5am ^^

The OP is asking for predictions of lifetime sales of two consoles on a video-game sales discussion forum.  How exactly does that make any member posting their prediction of lifetime sales of said consoles stupid?


I'm aware of what it sais i dont have to agree with it ^^ And i find it to be stupid as your trying to predict something with a huge number of variables. Predicting 1 years time makes scene as you can use current logic but to guess an even in lets say 4 years time is just stupid :P

No, it's not stupid, it's just fun. If you don't like such unsafe predictions without using 'current logic' then leave this thread and STFU calling other people stupid. :P


The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

And what about your comment of calling someone a 13 year old. Don't try and cover it up to avoid a ban. You were flaming and you have been reported.

Im aloud to cool someone a 13 year old arnt i? O.o lolz side not what is the actual definition of flaming? cos i actualy dont know xD

No, you aren't. Not even if they are 13 because it implies you think they are inferior. Flaming is using any form of insults on another member.

Lol i meant more in the sence of the younger someone is the longer they are capable of dragging an arguement out, cos they havnt fully learnt the different betweens losing an argument and chosing to leave. Does meen ther einferior lolz :P (as i know from experience with myself lol). Aah so thats what it meant. Why dont people just call it insulting?



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nightsurge on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:

Lol i meant more in the sence of the younger someone is the longer they are capable of dragging an arguement out, cos they havnt fully learnt the different betweens losing an argument and chosing to leave. Does meen ther einferior lolz :P (as i know from experience with myself lol). Aah so thats what it meant. Why dont people just call it insulting?

You seem to be doing that quite well.

Doesn't matter, I reported you for flaming which it was.  Hopefully a mod will get to it sooner rather than later.



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
nightsurge said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

Lol i meant more in the sence of the younger someone is the longer they are capable of dragging an arguement out, cos they havnt fully learnt the different betweens losing an argument and chosing to leave. Does meen ther einferior lolz :P (as i know from experience with myself lol). Aah so thats what it meant. Why dont people just call it insulting?

You seem to be doing that quite well.

Doesn't matter, I reported you for flaming which it was.  Hopefully a mod will get to it sooner rather than later.


i am ^^ except its not 5am at the mo :P and no it doesnt matter ^^ if that counts as flaming then i take responsibility for it. weather i intended it rudely or not is of little importance.



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snakenobi on 05 January 2011
MightyGrogg said:
snakenobi said:

So the 360 recently broke many milestones from 50m to outselling SNES.But where will it rank when its all set and done

On the other hand SONY continues to grind sales out of the PSP in its 7th year which recently broke 65m mark

 

360's plus points :

still selling good

good software support

mid-cycle refreshment as kinect

pricecuts

 

360's negatives :

successor coming on in 1-2 years time

low first party to support 2 consoles

MS would have a stiff competition next generation so they might shift resources away


PSP's plus points :

software support still there

sony is known to keep playstation products selling for long time

Possible alot future SONY phones integrating PSP to keep PSP going for 10 year life-cycle,first PSPhone releasing soon

strong SONY first party to keep it going

pricecuts

 

PSP's negatives :

bad software sales as a result software support dropping

succesor coming 1-2 years time

 

 

 

So give your predictions and also tell us what you think will be the lifetime of both of them?

 

my prediction is PSP

 

lifetime:

360 = 80m

PSP = 90m

Scrating my head for a minute. You do realize that the PSP will start to die quickly once the PSP2 gets released right? Why would you compare the PSP to the XBox 360? Handheld -vs- console comparisons don't mix. It's like comparing PC graphics -vs- console graphics. It's a bit silly.

oh so you are talking with so wisdom that you know everything then why not predict and leave other's predictions alone

 

abt the comparison,i was comparing as they are close and both at the moment we could see both finishing very close

handheld vs console comparison don't mix when you are comparing specs,this is a sales thread

 

just because you don't like it doesn't mean everybody else doesn't.

 

comparing PC graphics to console graphics is a technical comparison not a sales comparison



mundus6 on 05 January 2011

So you are predicting 25 million more PSP sold and 30 million more 360 sold? Nah, i think 360 will win this one. PSP is and will remain last for the reminder of the generation (new consoles sold), which means that 360 will move many many more consoles than PSP. It does however need 15 million more consoles sold to break even. But i think 360 sales will stabilize while PSP sales will drop when 3DS comes out. Next Xbox probably wont come before next PSP btw, so thats another plus for 360.



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gergroy on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.


Ah but people tend to say i predict bla bla bla which actually means to guess using facts etc. the fact change every day for consoles xD games is a different story as you can make very well educated guesses as they often follow very basic structures. And ill post where i like thank you ^^ And im not derailing it. im simply pointing out something that is do do with the subject of the thread. im just taking a different angle. Magic isnt it :D

"A prediction or forecast is a statement about the way things will happen in the future, often but not always based on experience or knowledge"

please show me a definition of a prediction that says it means a guess using facts?  The definition I found says it quite clearly that it is not always based on experience or knowledge.  Basically, a prediction is somebody making a statement about something that will happen in the future.

So stop making up your own definition of words and telling people they are stupid when in fact you are the one that is saying things that aren't right



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.


Ah but people tend to say i predict bla bla bla which actually means to guess using facts etc. the fact change every day for consoles xD games is a different story as you can make very well educated guesses as they often follow very basic structures. And ill post where i like thank you ^^ And im not derailing it. im simply pointing out something that is do do with the subject of the thread. im just taking a different angle. Magic isnt it :D

"A prediction or forecast is a statement about the way things will happen in the future, often but not always based on experience or knowledge"

please show me a definition of a prediction that says it means a guess using facts?  The definition I found says it quite clearly that it is not always based on experience or knowledge.  Basically, a prediction is somebody making a statement about something that will happen in the future.

So stop making up your own definition of words and telling people they are stupid when in fact you are the one that is saying things that aren't right

the definiton i have here (which id be mroe than happy to link you to) sais "the act of predicting (as by reasoning about the future)"

No the word "fact" may not be the correct word to use but it states in this definition your basically using logicle thinking. of which there is little that can be used in such things.

Now can we please end this argument it is getting incredible tiresome.



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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gergroy on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.


Ah but people tend to say i predict bla bla bla which actually means to guess using facts etc. the fact change every day for consoles xD games is a different story as you can make very well educated guesses as they often follow very basic structures. And ill post where i like thank you ^^ And im not derailing it. im simply pointing out something that is do do with the subject of the thread. im just taking a different angle. Magic isnt it :D

"A prediction or forecast is a statement about the way things will happen in the future, often but not always based on experience or knowledge"

please show me a definition of a prediction that says it means a guess using facts?  The definition I found says it quite clearly that it is not always based on experience or knowledge.  Basically, a prediction is somebody making a statement about something that will happen in the future.

So stop making up your own definition of words and telling people they are stupid when in fact you are the one that is saying things that aren't right

the definiton i have here (which id be mroe than happy to link you to) sais "the act of predicting (as by reasoning about the future)"

No the word "fact" may not be the correct word to use but it states in this definition your basically using logicle thinking. of which there is little that can be used in such things.

Now can we please end this argument it is getting incredible tiresome.

yes lets end it as you just lost.  All you are doing is assigning meaning to a word that doesn't exist.  Face it, you are wrong and everybody else in this thread is right.  



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.


Ah but people tend to say i predict bla bla bla which actually means to guess using facts etc. the fact change every day for consoles xD games is a different story as you can make very well educated guesses as they often follow very basic structures. And ill post where i like thank you ^^ And im not derailing it. im simply pointing out something that is do do with the subject of the thread. im just taking a different angle. Magic isnt it :D

"A prediction or forecast is a statement about the way things will happen in the future, often but not always based on experience or knowledge"

please show me a definition of a prediction that says it means a guess using facts?  The definition I found says it quite clearly that it is not always based on experience or knowledge.  Basically, a prediction is somebody making a statement about something that will happen in the future.

So stop making up your own definition of words and telling people they are stupid when in fact you are the one that is saying things that aren't right

the definiton i have here (which id be mroe than happy to link you to) sais "the act of predicting (as by reasoning about the future)"

No the word "fact" may not be the correct word to use but it states in this definition your basically using logicle thinking. of which there is little that can be used in such things.

Now can we please end this argument it is getting incredible tiresome.

yes lets end it as you just lost.  All you are doing is assigning meaning to a word that doesn't exist.  Face it, you are wrong and everybody else in this thread is right.  

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:prediction&sa=X&ei=6xwlTc6FDI6WhQfOyu33AQ&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQkAE

There you go its the first one on the list ^^ and there's a difference between leaving because you "lost" and leaving because its pointless arguing with some people ^^ And its very immature to say such things as "you just lost". Arguments of this kind don't have a direct goal but are simply a chain of smaller arguments. Of which 1 person can not lose" or "win" the argument itself.



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Chris Hu on 05 January 2011

Since their still is a 15 million gap I voted for the PSP.  But I also think that the 360 has a lot more life left and the PSP2 will come out a lot sooner then the tread starter things I'm pretty confident that it will come out in less then a year.  Even though the PSP is still selling its pretty much a dead system with no more major new titles coming out.