This one's funny, too. Nintendo did that in one generation (NES), Sony did it in one generation (PS). If you can't get it right from the start you will never get it right. Unless you have $6 billion to spare, like MS have. Spending $6 billion on this venture is amazing, what they have achieved is not.

So is your champion so I wouldn't gloat too much.  Apparently the only system that can beat a 7 year old sub 1GHz SD system is 6 month old sub 1GHz SD system.  As for Sony destroying MS, that's all well and good, leave Nintendo to pick up the pieces .  Anyways, Bill Gates' lover boy was good for a few laughs at least. 

This just shows that MS still hasn't found a business model that works for video games.  Thus far MS has only been subsidizing the entertainment of young men which is at best a charity and not a particularly good or noble one at that.  Hopefully MS and Sony will take each other out. That would leave video games to the one company who knows how to make money off them or maybe encourage Sega to return allowing for the video game industry to be run by actual video game companies. 

Hello. I'm new here, but not a stranger to gaming news. Now I have to say that this isn't as bad a reflection on Microsoft as it seems. I'm not approving of their actions, but the article seems to stuff its points to make the situation seem dire and full of doom and gloom, especially by quoting blog reactions, rather than actual news reports.

The thing  is that the system is still selling, and the games are selling. It's whether the sales can keep up tha matters.

And if this causes the shipping report habit to fade away, then I'm glad this happened.

Great article.

Despite the perceived success, XBox is a brand in a desperate place. Lets consider the original statement from MS... They said they'd do 10 million units before their competitors hit the shelves... That would be a 12 month timeframe... MS hit 10.4 million shipped through 14 months. They might finally hit 10 million sold through 18 months.

Their goal of 12 million through June, originally thought to be "totally clearing out the retail channels for a summer price cut," in fact will probably come no where close to clearing out retail. At under 500K a month WW, they could be below 11 million units through June. And with a spring launch for Elite at a RAISED price, they can't be planning a summer price cut, can they?

Fact is, despite slowly-but-surely moving beyond what XBox1 did in terms of monthly and overall sales, 360 has effectively delayed its chance at breaking into the mainstream until the fall and Xmas season. They could easily be the second place console by then. But a lot of people won't realize it, as MS may overship units in June and September, too.

A product that is performing to expectations, or even reasonably close to expectations, doesn't need overinflated shipment numbers.

1. The Wii and DS are the only consoles outselling anyone by a huge margin right now.

2. Microsoft is very dishonest company, but that has nothing to do with my next statement. They STILL have not sold 10 million consoles. Look at this website's numbers before you post lies.

3. Nintendo is the closest thing to the king of consoles right now, and in case you haven't heard, Xbox's had that red ring of death problem that caused a lot of people to have to return them. Then, every replacement was counted as another sell. That's terrible. Sony had problems with PS1 overheating and PS2 laser reading problems but at least they worked for awhile. The Wii and PS3 have no global problems like the 360 had. You lie just like Microsoft.

4. The PSN is decent. I wish it added more content than 3 or so things a week. This week is Mortal Kombat 2 for $5. However, it's free and has no lag. Can M$ say the same? No. Like others have said, Home is a lot more than Live and it will still be free.

5. Yeah, amazing. Nintendo and Sony did it in one generation, as someone else said. You can also throw in the Atari because when the Atari 2600 was released it led the 2nd generation of video games and the first for Atari (generation # from wikipedia). Looks like every company that dominated did it the first generation. As badly as Sega sold in Japan, Microsoft looks to be the next Sega.

6. Lots of media outlets have covered it throughout the last few months.

7. Like someone else said, all retailers will want to carry Vista, especially for its launch. Despite it doing poorly because XP runs just fine and not many gamers care about DirectX 10 yet, you still need it in your store. Sony could do the same thing with their TVs to a lesser extent.

8. Your post was the real joke.

9. He compared all 3. But, as long as Microsoft does not win, I'll be happy. Btw, I will continue to consider buying an xbox if it becomes a more reasonable purchase. I'm a gamer, not a fanboy. I happen to prefer the PS3 and Wii right now, and I think with those 2 consoles I'll get 95% of the exclusives I want to play. I've thought about getting the Core if M$ didn't charge so much to add a hard drive and if developers all supported hard drive features. We'll see, but there is no getting around that M$ is a questionable company and has been for decades now.

 You really prefear Sony over MS?, you talked about power to push hardware price up and hide their huge OS price in it... what about pushing blue ray into every PS3 owner even if they don't want to just for winning the big $$$ war the movie format war.

 Come on every company is here for the mone, nintendo is the only one making money with the console... they could be doing what everyone else is doing don't earn money on hardware and earn money on software... I own all three and I'm very happy with my 360, it broke once and I send it and got back in a week free of charges. The PS3 is excellent 2 but no great games yet, and nintendo is ok to play with my wife and with no hardcore gamers.

Go out there work hard and buy the 3 consoles that is the only way to make the videogamming industry more important.  hahahahahahahaha

See, bad production. The one good thing they did was changing the policy on fixing the consoles for free and extending what was only a 90-day warranty. They realized that far too many people were getting the problem and customer service had the red ring of death as an option.

I'm glad you are happy with all 3, maybe I will be to, someday. For me to buy a 360 though, I would like M$ to fix several things: no more loud dvd drive (I hear that the elite will have it as well even though that makes no sense for M$ to do), upgrade using any hard drive I want, free online gaming, and inclusion of wireless and power brick into the case (ok, maybe this is too much to ask, even though Sony did it). Oh, and a few more exclusives would be needed. I'm not totally far away, but I just can't justify it right now with my general dislike of the company.

Too many tards on this forum to point them out... so I'm going to keep this short.

Sony and MS have the same business practices. They both report "Shipped" numbers.

 Both only care about 1 thing - Making there investors happy.

These are exactly my thoughts. Neither Sony nor MS actually belong in the video game industry. Before entering the video game business they were mostly known for dirty hi-fi equipment and boring office software, respectively. Besides, Sony and MS are exactly the same - the only difference between them is the country of origin and the fact that MS has way more money to throw out than Sony. But both are greedy juggernauts with no tradition in the video gaming sector. Sony in addition are the Sega murderers...

Verdict: Sony's just as bad as MS, if not worse.

 truer words have never been spoken.

Thats why i enjoy this sites numbers because it generally hovers around sold to consumers, and not company shipments.