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What's the point of drinking, the point of being DRUNK?!

I do it because I am stupid 36 11.73%
 
It helps me forget about my problems 36 11.73%
 
It's just an addiction 26 8.47%
 
Shut up kid! You don't know JACK-in-the-box! 102 33.22%
 
Other eccentric reason... 59 19.22%
 
I'm drunk right now..HOL... 47 15.31%
 
Total:306
blaydcor said:

I mean, I appreciate that you're rebuffing every logical argument with smilies and coy jokes instead of being rude and outspoken about it, but the fact is you're wrong. Alcoholism isn't based on an individual's opinion--it's a disease, and to not treat it as such is to do a massive disservice to all the people who legitimately have a problem.

You're doing the equivalent of calling a pimple skin cancer, justifying it by saying that's just because you "have different standards for cancer", and then making jokes when we attempt to explain things sensibly. 

I honestly do not understand how you can be so resolutely judgmental when you seem almost entirely uninformed on the subject of alcohol--let alone having actually experienced drinking. 

Ok, ok, you keep on drinking, I'll keep on not drinking. You keep on telling people to drink, I'll keep on telling people the opposite. Satisfied?



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sapphi_snake said:
blaydcor said:

I mean, I appreciate that you're rebuffing every logical argument with smilies and coy jokes instead of being rude and outspoken about it, but the fact is you're wrong. Alcoholism isn't based on an individual's opinion--it's a disease, and to not treat it as such is to do a massive disservice to all the people who legitimately have a problem.

You're doing the equivalent of calling a pimple skin cancer, justifying it by saying that's just because you "have different standards for cancer", and then making jokes when we attempt to explain things sensibly. 

I honestly do not understand how you can be so resolutely judgmental when you seem almost entirely uninformed on the subject of alcohol--let alone having actually experienced drinking. 

Ok, ok, you keep on drinking, I'll keep on not drinking. You keep on telling people to drink, I'll keep on telling people the opposite. Satisfied?

That's kind of a non-answer you know, I mean, what's the point of it? Or maybe I'm not thinking straight since I haven't drank for about 14 hours now.

But the trhead is asking what's the point of drinking. Some people are arguing there is no point, that it makes no sense. These people, not by coincidence, have just about no actual knowlodge on the subject. You tell people whatever the hell you want, but if you make no sense don't be surprised when people tell you you're not making sense :P

And he's got a point, how rational do you think your belief and your defence of it here have been?



Well, I don't see the point of drinking to be drunk, but for those who have an occasional drink, there have been studies that show 1-2 drinks daily for males and 1 drink daily for females is actually good for your health.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Spphi and Dany, I have a question for you guys.

Say there's this girl, hot as can be, amazing body, unbelievably pretty with those dreammy eyes, a girl so perfect to your tastes you can barely believe your sight. Take the girl you most wanted in your life and imagine she's at most ok compared to this one. (oh, you can swap her with a guy if you want)

Now this girl you do any and everything with you. Everything. There's just a single catch. You have to share a beer with her. Justthe one, and it'd be shared. Would you do it?

Btw, shes on your lap, rubing herself against you in the most exciting way imaginable, and you have to decide now. Drink or walk away?



sapphi_snake said:
blaydcor said:

I mean, I appreciate that you're rebuffing every logical argument with smilies and coy jokes instead of being rude and outspoken about it, but the fact is you're wrong. Alcoholism isn't based on an individual's opinion--it's a disease, and to not treat it as such is to do a massive disservice to all the people who legitimately have a problem.

You're doing the equivalent of calling a pimple skin cancer, justifying it by saying that's just because you "have different standards for cancer", and then making jokes when we attempt to explain things sensibly. 

I honestly do not understand how you can be so resolutely judgmental when you seem almost entirely uninformed on the subject of alcohol--let alone having actually experienced drinking. 

Ok, ok, you keep on drinking, I'll keep on not drinking. You keep on telling people to drink, I'll keep on telling people the opposite. Satisfied?


Okay, once again. I'm not telling you, or anybody, to drink. Earlier in the thread I actually praised the OP for making a healthy lifestyle choice.

See, this thread was launched in attack of drinking. All I'm doing is making a logical counterargument for why people drink, attempting to introduce some unbiased facts, and just all around contribute to a reasonable discussion. Not once have I, nor do I, encourage people to do something they aren't comfortable with. I do not care if you drink or if you don't drink. 



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Farmageddon said:

Spphi and Dany, I have a question for you guys.

Say there's this girl, hot as can be, amazing body, unbelievably pretty with those dreammy eyes, a girl so perfect to your tastes you can barely believe your sight. Take the girl you most wanted in your life and imagine she's at most ok compared to this one. (oh, you can swap her with a guy if you want)

Now this girl you do any and everything with you. Everything. There's just a single catch. You have to share a beer with her. Justthe one, and it'd be shared. Would you do it?

Btw, shes on your lap, rubing herself against you in the most exciting way imaginable, and you have to decide now. Drink or walk away?

Oh my, so dreamy... Wait! Beer?! Then he can go f**k himself!... Oops! I mean she! I meant she!!!



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Farmageddon said:

That's kind of a non-answer you know, I mean, what's the point of it? Or maybe I'm not thinking straight since I haven't drank for about 14 hours now.

But the trhead is asking what's the point of drinking. Some people are arguing there is no point, that it makes no sense. These people, not by coincidence, have just about no actual knowlodge on the subject. You tell people whatever the hell you want, but if you make no sense don't be surprised when people tell you you're not making sense :P

And he's got a point, how rational do you think your belief and your defence of it here have been?

Well, drinking has been a practice common in society for millennia, and most people started drinking due to social pressure. Someone sees their parents drinking, so they decide to get some alcohol and share with their friends, and they all start drinking because adults do it, and they want to imitate adults, but at the same time they're not allowed to drink, so that adds to the thrill of it.

Alcohol eventually becomes an important part of their social life, and those who refuse to drink are ostracised by the group, thus being pressured to either drink or be excluded.

Alcohol also has significance in social rituals.

None of these reasons seem valid to start drinking (I don't care that people are bothered because I don't drink).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

blaydcor said:
sapphi_snake said:
blaydcor said:

I mean, I appreciate that you're rebuffing every logical argument with smilies and coy jokes instead of being rude and outspoken about it, but the fact is you're wrong. Alcoholism isn't based on an individual's opinion--it's a disease, and to not treat it as such is to do a massive disservice to all the people who legitimately have a problem.

You're doing the equivalent of calling a pimple skin cancer, justifying it by saying that's just because you "have different standards for cancer", and then making jokes when we attempt to explain things sensibly. 

I honestly do not understand how you can be so resolutely judgmental when you seem almost entirely uninformed on the subject of alcohol--let alone having actually experienced drinking. 

Ok, ok, you keep on drinking, I'll keep on not drinking. You keep on telling people to drink, I'll keep on telling people the opposite. Satisfied?


Okay, once again. I'm not telling you, or anybody, to drink. Earlier in the thread I actually praised the OP for making a healthy lifestyle choice.

See, this thread was launched in attack of drinking. All I'm doing is making a logical counterargument for why people drink, attempting to introduce some unbiased facts, and just all around contribute to a reasonable discussion. Not once have I, nor do I, encourage people to do something they aren't comfortable with. I do not care if you drink or if you don't drink. 

Read my latest post to Farmageddon for why I don't agree with why people drink.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

wait till you get drunk for the first time and get laid. 



                                                                           

sapphi_snake said:
Farmageddon said:

That's kind of a non-answer you know, I mean, what's the point of it? Or maybe I'm not thinking straight since I haven't drank for about 14 hours now.

But the trhead is asking what's the point of drinking. Some people are arguing there is no point, that it makes no sense. These people, not by coincidence, have just about no actual knowlodge on the subject. You tell people whatever the hell you want, but if you make no sense don't be surprised when people tell you you're not making sense :P

And he's got a point, how rational do you think your belief and your defence of it here have been?

Well, drinking has been a practice common in society for millennia, and most people started drinking due to social pressure. Someone sees their parents drinking, so they decide to get some alcohol and share with their friends, and they all start drinking because adults do it, and they want to imitate adults, but at the same time they're not allowed to drink, so that adds to the thrill of it.

Alcohol eventually becomes an important part of their social life, and those who refuse to drink are ostracised by the group, thus being pressured to either drink or be excluded.

Alcohol also has significance in social rituals.

None of these reasons seem valid to start drinking (I don't care that people are bothered because I don't drink).

Please cut it with the social pressure. People have fun drinking. They feel good.

Some people might start because of social pressure, w/e doesn't really mean much given just how much shit the average person does because of that. But the point is people keep drinking because it's good. And don't fool yourself, there's social pressure against drinking as well.

The situation of being excluded from a group because you don't drink is usually not quite like that, unless among assholes, in which case drinking is not the problem anyway. At college we have a group of people that drinks like crazy and there are a few non-drinkers that hang out with us when we're drinking. What you're describing is a very teenage-centric, media fuelled, sensacionalistic view.

None of the reasons you listed is valid, but that means nothing.

Let me list a few reasons for walking:

- Everyone does it. People who don't walk are treated as different and are ostracised.

- Since we're born we see our parents walk and we want to imitate them.

- Walking has a significant hole in social rituals.

None of these are good reasons. So I suppose you don't walk either?

Your list is simply bogus.

Here, a quick google images search, showing people being martirized by social pressure:

 

 

 

 

God, just looking at it is painful.

 

Btw, you wouldn't take half a beer for him/her? You really think half a beer would do you any bad? Or is it just by principle? Or lack of drive? :P