goforgold said:
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Yeah, right.
Above: still the best game of the year.
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Japan has just recently emerged from a recession that is considered the worst in the country since WWII and it's expected to sink again in 2011. Developers can't afford putting out constant valuable games on consoles that sell only to one region (Japanese games appeal to Japan only, mosty) . Localization is worth it anymore thanks to the strong yen. Handhelds software support is expected in this case and Handhelds ARE part of the gaming industry so it's not really dying. It's easier for western companies to support home consoles because their games appeal to 2 much bigger markets at least. Despite all that, Wii HD are on their way to outsell the ps2. As I said, ps3 is no where near its lowest price (nor the wii or the 360 for that matter) , there IS room for more growth. |
Exactly. And, as you said, Japan's troubles aren't going anywhere. Therefore, even though there is a perfectly logical external factor causing the decline in sales, people's "JAPAN IZ DOOOOMMMED!" comments are called for. I do agree that handhelds are obviously a part of the industry though so you should just ask them to say "JAPAN IZ DOOOOMMMED (for home consoles)!" instead.
And, despite plenty of price cuts in the cards for PSWii (360 doesn't matter), it is illogical to believe that they'll move 10m more consoles even though they're declining hugely and are both going to be substantially less than 3.5m for the year.
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goforgold said:
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Why it isnt on store shelves?
MHP3 (PSP) 581,543 3,161,801
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Immortal said:
Exactly. And, as you said, Japan's troubles aren't going anywhere. Therefore, even though there is a perfectly logical external factor causing the decline in sales, people's "JAPAN IZ DOOOOMMMED!" comments are called for. I do agree that handhelds are obviously a part of the industry though so you should just ask them to say "JAPAN IZ DOOOOMMMED (for home consoles)!" instead. And, despite plenty of price cuts in the cards for PSWii (360 doesn't matter), it is illogical to believe that they'll move 10m more consoles even though they're declining hugely and are both going to be substantially less than 3.5m for the year. |
"JAPAN IZ DOOOOMMMED (for home consoles)!"
LOL, true!
I will start reporting the haterz now 
it is illogical to believe that they'll move 10m more consoles
I believe this generation is gonna last longer in Japan because simply any upgrade brings huge increase to production costs and that's gonna make the software support non existant for next generation consoles (it is almost non existant now :/). PS4/Wii HD aren't wanted anytime soon I believe. Anyway, time will tell 
ethomaz said:
GT5 sold out in Japan??? I know the first shippment was 550k and it sold it already... but I guess the second shippment was done some weeks ago. |
yuppers, GT5 in japan will increase once supplies are refilled
The general trend isn't good though in Japan for consoles:
Famicom - 19m (more if you include NEC's system)
Super Famicom & Genesis - 20m
PS1 & N64 & Saturn - 30m
PS2 & GC & DC & Xbox - 30m
Wii & PS3 & X360 - 18.5m to date - probably not going to reach 30m
Pretty stable for the last 20 years. Why? Well look at the Japanese population in 1985 = 121m, vs. 1990 = 124m, 1995 = 126m, 2000 = 127m. 2005 = 128m, 2010 = 127m. The death rate is greater than the birth rate in Japan now - the country is shrinking. In theory though that means the country is getting younger too, which helps explain the portables, as for every one person born something like 1.2 people die (most of them older).
Now look at the USA:
NES - 34m (37m w/ master system)
SNES & Genesis - 40m (more with Turbografx and others)
PS1 & N64 & Saturn - 56m?
PS2 & Xbox & GC & DC - 73m roughly by the time PS2 stops selling
Wii & X360 & PS3 - Roughly 70m through 2010 and huge volumes will be sold in 2011 and 2012 at least.
USA Pop in 2010 = 308m
USA Pop in 2005 - about 295m
USA Pop in 2000 = 281m
USA Pop in 1995 = 263m
USA Pop in 1990 = 249m
USA Pop in 1985 = 238m
The USA has 70m more people now than at the start of the NES generation, Japan only 7m more. Not surprisingly, USA console growth per generation is going to increase by about 70m from the NES era to the Wii era. Wii & X360 & PS3 could easily do 50-60m, 35-45m, 20-30m in the USA each.
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Good numbers for Inazuma Eleven 3, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Shining Hearts and NinoKuni imo.
Exceptional numbers for Monster Hunter Freedom 3. The game will make it to the Japanese all-time Top 10 very soon and is the final and impressive proof that this gen MH has joined the club of the biggest franchises in Japan.
| TheSource said: The general trend isn't good though in Japan for consoles: Famicom - 19m (more if you include NEC's system) Super Famicom & Genesis - 20m PS1 & N64 & Saturn - 30m PS2 & GC & DC & Xbox - 30m Wii & PS3 & X360 - 18.5m to date - probably not going to reach 30m Pretty stable for the last 20 years. Why? Well look at the Japanese population in 1985 = 121m, vs. 1990 = 124m, 1995 = 126m, 2000 = 127m. 2005 = 128m, 2010 = 127m. The death rate is greater than the birth rate in Japan now - the country is shrinking. In theory though that means the country is getting younger too, which helps explain the portables, as for every one person born something like 1.2 people die (most of them older). Now look at the USA: NES - 34m (37m w/ master system) SNES & Genesis - 40m (more with Turbografx and others) PS1 & N64 & Saturn - 56m? PS2 & Xbox & GC & DC - 73m roughly by the time PS2 stops selling Wii & X360 & PS3 - Roughly 70m through 2010 and huge volumes will be sold in 2011 and 2012 at least. USA Pop in 2010 = 308m USA Pop in 2005 - about 295m USA Pop in 2000 = 281m USA Pop in 1995 = 263m USA Pop in 1990 = 249m USA Pop in 1985 = 238m The USA has 70m more people now than at the start of the NES generation, Japan only 7m more. Not surprisingly, USA console growth per generation is going to increase by about 70m from the NES era to the Wii era. Wii & X360 & PS3 could easily do 50-60m, 35-45m, 20-30m in the USA each. |
Thanks for the population growth figures, I was gonna google them but I wasn't interested enough.
I think the generation will last longer at least in Japan and they will reach 30m home consoles eventually. Japan can't afford higher production cost of WiiHD nor ps4 if they can't afford support the ps3. 3Ds and PSP2 will have to expand the market in that case and console gaming is gonna shrink unless the economy flips out of the blue.
Nice legs for DK! And people were actually worried about its first week sales :)
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