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Conegamer on 19 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
Conegamer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
huaxiong90 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

I should add that the vulume of m rated games on the other systems increase sales, but the costs are so high that only a few make money, and that only a few really sell that well anyway.

I wonder how big the development budget for The Last Story and Xenoblade are.


Hard to say, since budget disclosure is so rare among the gaming industry.

It is, but I'd guess

Xenoblade-£9 million

The Last Story- £12 million

(Typical Wii game- £7 million)

(Typical HD game- £16-20 million)

These are all just guesses, but likely in the right area

Your guess is somewhat over estimated on all front i would i have to say. I dont know the exact figures myself but consider crysis cost 20 million to make i highly doubt thats the general amoutn spent. It probably more around 5 million for a trypicle wii game and 10 million for hd game. With very high buget wii games being about 15 million and very high budget HD games being about 50 million.

To be honest though the obveous reaosn ti costs more is that the budget is mostly spent og the graphicle sid eof things which the wii is slightly lacking in.

Perhaps; however, the only two figures I know FOR SURE are:

GTAIV-£47 million

FF13- £60 million

(I also remember reading that COD games on the  HD consoles cost more than 5X as much as on the Wii)

*starts looking for source*



 

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Conegamer on 19 December 2010
Gamerace said:
RolStoppable said:

If you have an interest in M-rated games, you'll try to get to play the best there is. That definitely isn't on the Wii and it's for reasons that go beyond graphical and online limitations: Nintendo doesn't make M-rated games and third parties don't put their best teams on Wii games in general, so what you can buy in terms of M-rated games on the Wii is limited to at best second rate titles, but usually worse.

Short, succinct and straight to the point. If you can grasp the basic idea outlined above, you won't have to wonder why, out of the three current generation home consoles, M-rated games sell the worst on the Wii despite its clear installed base advantage.



My thoughts exactly, and at this point anyone hoping for more M games on Wii has given up and gotten an HD console.  

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though



 

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Gamerace on 19 December 2010
Conegamer said:
Gamerace said:
RolStoppable said:

If you have an interest in M-rated games, you'll try to get to play the best there is. That definitely isn't on the Wii and it's for reasons that go beyond graphical and online limitations: Nintendo doesn't make M-rated games and third parties don't put their best teams on Wii games in general, so what you can buy in terms of M-rated games on the Wii is limited to at best second rate titles, but usually worse.

Short, succinct and straight to the point. If you can grasp the basic idea outlined above, you won't have to wonder why, out of the three current generation home consoles, M-rated games sell the worst on the Wii despite its clear installed base advantage.



My thoughts exactly, and at this point anyone hoping for more M games on Wii has given up and gotten an HD console.  

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.



 

tolu619 on 19 December 2010

At the end of the day, I marvel at how most people I know in real life and not on the internet have no idea that most of the hardcore wii games I know about even exist! Same goes for DS. I don't understand how. Nice read, Conegamer!



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Conegamer on 19 December 2010
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:
Gamerace said:
RolStoppable said:

If you have an interest in M-rated games, you'll try to get to play the best there is. That definitely isn't on the Wii and it's for reasons that go beyond graphical and online limitations: Nintendo doesn't make M-rated games and third parties don't put their best teams on Wii games in general, so what you can buy in terms of M-rated games on the Wii is limited to at best second rate titles, but usually worse.

Short, succinct and straight to the point. If you can grasp the basic idea outlined above, you won't have to wonder why, out of the three current generation home consoles, M-rated games sell the worst on the Wii despite its clear installed base advantage.



My thoughts exactly, and at this point anyone hoping for more M games on Wii has given up and gotten an HD console.  

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.

This is a good point- I approve of multiplat games, so long as though all versions are the same, advertised the same and released at the same time. Otherwise, it's all a bit unreliable and unfair, and bad for the company (see- NBA Jam)

Also, hopefully WRPG's will change with...well...Skyrim? Or is that too exotic

Anyway, it'll soon be king of JRPG's with DQX, Xenoblade, TLS and TOG, as well as Arc Rise Fantasia!



 

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tolu619 on 19 December 2010
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:
Gamerace said:
RolStoppable said:

If you have an interest in M-rated games, you'll try to get to play the best there is. That definitely isn't on the Wii and it's for reasons that go beyond graphical and online limitations: Nintendo doesn't make M-rated games and third parties don't put their best teams on Wii games in general, so what you can buy in terms of M-rated games on the Wii is limited to at best second rate titles, but usually worse.

Short, succinct and straight to the point. If you can grasp the basic idea outlined above, you won't have to wonder why, out of the three current generation home consoles, M-rated games sell the worst on the Wii despite its clear installed base advantage.



My thoughts exactly, and at this point anyone hoping for more M games on Wii has given up and gotten an HD console.  

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.


I think this gen, one needs at least a wii and a HD console to get the best selection, unless one coincidentally doesn't like the genres the wii excels at. Looking at this year alone, it's obvious that the wii far outshines the HD consoles when it comes to platformers. It also outshines them when it comes to niche games, most of the time. And for someone like me, it has more exclusive anime games. But there'll definitely be people who don't like any of the 3 categories I just used as examples.



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huaxiong90 on 19 December 2010
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.

I think you should've built/bought a gaming PC if you want WRPG's and other genres.

Most Wii gamers here and IRL that I know use a PC-Wii combination.



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Conegamer on 19 December 2010
tolu619 said:

At the end of the day, I marvel at how most people I know in real life and not on the internet have no idea that most of the hardcore wii games I know about even exist! Same goes for DS. I don't understand how. Nice read, Conegamer!

Why thank you

Better brand recognition is needed for people, sadly, they see the Wii as a "toy" mostly



 

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Conegamer on 19 December 2010
huaxiong90 said:
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.

I think you should've built/bought a gaming PC if you want WRPG's and other genres.

Most Wii gamers here and IRL that I know use a PC-Wii combination.

The line between WRPG and MMORPG is very hazy nowadays, hence why PC is KING OF THEM ALL!



 

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huaxiong90 on 19 December 2010
Conegamer said:
huaxiong90 said:
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:

Not really; I've got both a Wii, PS3 and 360 and use the Wii far more for 2proper" gaming than those two this year...

Mainly due to Monster Hunter though

But you have a PS3 and 360...  I used my Wii far more than the 360 (now gone) but still ended up getting a 360 for WRPGs and other genre's that Wii sadly lacks.   So now even an exclusive 'core' game like Monster Hunter has to compete with all the titles on the HD systems for our dollars.    There's little point in putting those games exclusive to Wii now.

I think you should've built/bought a gaming PC if you want WRPG's and other genres.

Most Wii gamers here and IRL that I know use a PC-Wii combination.

The line between WRPG and MMORPG is very hazy nowadays, hence why PC is KING OF THEM ALL!

This man speaks the truth.



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