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tombi123 on 18 December 2010
kowenicki said:
Mr.Metralha said:
kowenicki said:
Mr.Metralha said:
kowenicki said:

Kinect is just huge...

Bundle with Adventures could do close to 1 million next week... 5.5m by year end.

Kinect Sports will get close to 2.0m by year end.

Dance central will come close or pass 1.0m.

Kinectimal will pass 0.5m.

All of this will have happened in just 8 weeks.

Thats 10m software units attributable to Kinect by year end.

You for got to mention those weeks took place on the holiday season.

 

and?

you arent impressed then?

Not a matter of being impressed or not, holiday season inflates sales by a very large margin. If kinect launched in late summer or spring, whatever it would take much more than 8 weeks to achieve what it is achieving.

Thats why it is important to mention it did that on the holiday season, otherwise I could brag about Wii selling 1.5 million units per week all the year =)

Not really.

People scoffed at 5m kinect by xmas when it was launched... people even said it risked being DOA at the given price (I was one of them) but here we are with between 5m and 6m sold in its first xmas after just 8 weeks.  The Wii didn't even do that. 

So yes, its impressive whenever it is.

Intentionally misleading? If there were 5-6M Wiis available in its first eight weeks it would have sold 5-6M.

I was lucky enough to get a Wii on launch day. I paid £180 from amazon.co.uk. I could have sold it on ebay for roughly £500 that christmas. That is how bad the Wii shortages were.



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Nintendogamer on 18 December 2010
Pavolink said:

Safe now.

12
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Wii)
Nintendo
8 156,385 913,367
9
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Wii)
Ubisoft
3 289,029 786,925

New million sellers next week.

Wii to have 96 Million sellers next week then, then goldeneye, epic mickey will push it to 98 million sellers.



Buying in 2015: Captain toad: treasure tracker,

mario maker

new 3ds

yoshi woolly world

zelda U

majora's mask 3d

Pavolink on 18 December 2010
Nintendogamer said:
Pavolink said:

Safe now.

12
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Wii)
Nintendo
8 156,385 913,367
9
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Wii)
Ubisoft
3 289,029 786,925

New million sellers next week.

Wii to have 96 Million sellers next week then, then goldeneye, epic mickey will push it to 98 million sellers.

And there are some games on 0.99M.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Nintendogamer on 18 December 2010
Pavolink said:
Nintendogamer said:
Pavolink said:

Safe now.

12
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Wii)
Nintendo
8 156,385 913,367
9
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Wii)
Ubisoft
3 289,029 786,925

New million sellers next week.

Wii to have 96 Million sellers next week then, then goldeneye, epic mickey will push it to 98 million sellers.

And there are some games on 0.99M.

Those games are probably selling like 300 a week or so they've been on 0.99M for ages.



Buying in 2015: Captain toad: treasure tracker,

mario maker

new 3ds

yoshi woolly world

zelda U

majora's mask 3d

Pavolink on 18 December 2010
Nintendogamer said:
Pavolink said:
Nintendogamer said:
Pavolink said:

Safe now.

12
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Wii)
Nintendo
8 156,385 913,367
9
Michael Jackson: The Experience (Wii)
Ubisoft
3 289,029 786,925

New million sellers next week.

Wii to have 96 Million sellers next week then, then goldeneye, epic mickey will push it to 98 million sellers.

And there are some games on 0.99M.

Those games are probably selling like 300 a week or so they've been on 0.99M for ages.

It was only one at 0.99, one at 0.98 and some at 0.97. :(



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


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Immortal on 18 December 2010
daroamer said:

Wii - Week of Dec 06 2006 - Americas

Top 10 Wii Software Sold (Not including bundled games) - 1.55 million units

Kinect Games - Week of Dec 11 2010 - Americas

Top 7 Kinect Games Sold (Not including bundled games) - 2.16 million units

I only did 7 because I don't know how to sort the Kinect only games and only 7 were in the Xbox top 30.

Still, those 7 games are outselling the top 10 Wii games in approx the same time period by 600,000 units in the Americas. 

So if Kinect isn't selling any games then Wii was much worse which is why it turned out to be such a gimmicky failure like so many at the time predicted.

I commend you for making the most idiotic comparison in the thread.

That includes 3 weeks of Wii sales and 6 of Kinect. Obviously, Kinect will sell more software if it has had more time to expand its hardware base. Twice as much time actually. And, considering that Kinect is even closer to the holidays, I find these sales quite pathetic for the peripheral in comparison I'm afraid.



 

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Pavolink on 18 December 2010
Immortal said:
daroamer said:

Wii - Week of Dec 06 2006 - Americas

Top 10 Wii Software Sold (Not including bundled games) - 1.55 million units

Kinect Games - Week of Dec 11 2010 - Americas

Top 7 Kinect Games Sold (Not including bundled games) - 2.16 million units

I only did 7 because I don't know how to sort the Kinect only games and only 7 were in the Xbox top 30.

Still, those 7 games are outselling the top 10 Wii games in approx the same time period by 600,000 units in the Americas. 

So if Kinect isn't selling any games then Wii was much worse which is why it turned out to be such a gimmicky failure like so many at the time predicted.

I commend you for making the most idiotic comparison in the thread.

That includes 3 weeks of Wii sales and 6 of Kinect. Obviously, Kinect will sell more software if it has had more time to expand its hardware base. Twice as much time actually. And, considering that Kinect is even closer to the holidays, I find these sales quite pathetic for the peripheral in comparison I'm afraid.

Its been long time since I haven't read the gimmicky failure Wii. Oh, and 3 weeks vs 6 weeks. Is a fair comparision.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Hemuli on 18 December 2010
kowenicki said:
RolStoppable said:
daroamer said:
Metallicube said:

But as I expected, the Kinect GAMES are not really selling, only the hardware, from the sheer noevelty. But eventually this will change, and the hardware sales will be brought down to the level of the software sales, unless some killer aps are released for it. It is ALWAYS games that moves hardware. Always.

Wii - Week of Dec 2006 - Americas

Top 10 Wii Software Sold (Not including bundled games) - 1.55 million units

Kinect Games - Week of Dec 11 2010 - Americas

Top 7 Kinect Games Sold (Not including bundled games) - 2.16 million units

I only did 7 because I don't know how to sort the Kinect only games and only 7 were in the Xbox top 30.

Still, those 7 games are outselling the top 10 Wii games in approx the same time period by 600,000 units in the Americas. 

So if Kinect isn't selling any games then Wii was much worse which is why it turned out to be such a gimmicky failure like so many at the time predicted.

Installed base also plays a role for software sales. What are those for the Wii and Kinect at that point in time?

EDIT: I checked the American numbers myself.

Wii hardware for the week ending December 9th 2006: 832k. Top 10 software excluding Wii Sports: 1.55m.

Kinect hardware for the week ending December 11th 2010: 2.602m. Top 7 software excluding Kinect Adventures: 2.16m.

So Kinect sold more software, but its attach rate comes in at below one game per device. Below one game! The Wii's attach rate is just under two, or in other words, one whole game sold more per system than what Kinect achieved. Adding in all available software wouldn't really change the results, so it's enough to just look at the top sellers.

On a sidenote, Kinect launched on November 4th while Wii launched on November 19th, giving Microsoft's device two weeks more in this comparison which should be an advantage for Kinect as it enjoyed a longer time period on sale and those who got it on launch day would be more likely to go out and buy an additional game.

For someone who just accused someone else a few minutes ago of leaving out important facts to fit an argument... well, you've been found guilty of the very same thing which means you aren't any better than him. But at least we now know for sure that Kinect's software sales are indeed not good.

pathetic..

I still cant believe you seem to want to 'side' with someone of the calibre of metallicube.

Then again, I do love it when people finally show their true colours.

So instead of trying to argue against his points, you go and offend him. Hooray for you!

Personally I think that rols post pretty much sums up the deal. It will be fun seeing how people are going to try to get aroung the fact that kinects attachrate is half of the wiis at the comperable time!



Immortal on 18 December 2010
kowenicki said:


offend him?  how?

I said his post is pathetic... thats my opinion.

I also said he is siding with metallicube?  if you think that is offensive then you clearly think that to be associated with metallicube is a bad thing?  Therefore, you are the one being offensive.


Saying something is pathetic is offensive. Your opinion is how you offend people. And you were clearly implying that Metallicube is of a "pathetic" calibre, which, too, is offensive.

And I just love how you're attacking people and refusing to even look at their arguments, xD.



 

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Immortal on 18 December 2010
kowenicki said:
Immortal said:
kowenicki said:


offend him?  how?

I said his post is pathetic... thats my opinion.

I also said he is siding with metallicube?  if you think that is offensive then you clearly think that to be associated with metallicube is a bad thing?  Therefore, you are the one being offensive.


Saying something is pathetic is offensive. Your opinion is how you offend people. And you were clearly implying that Metallicube is of a "pathetic" calibre, which, too, is offensive.

And I just love how you're attacking people and refusing to even look at their arguments, xD.

Your perception...

but seriously, calling a post pathetic is not offensive... unless you are ultra sensitive and delicate.

Well, I doubt anybody on here actually cries in their bedroom over anything they discuss here, but I'd assume that calling something pathetic classifies as offensive.

And I sincerely hope you're not gonna argue over the very exact definition of your words. Whilst you could obviously perceive what you said as neutral, I seriously doubt you would do something as idiotic as calling a post pathetic and expressing your surprise over the same post in a single comment without the latter being offensive as well.

We're completely off topic though.



 

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