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Sorry, broke the thread.
Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever
Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe
Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor
Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile
Safe now.
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8 | 156,385 | 913,367 |
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3 | 289,029 | 786,925 |
New million sellers next week.
Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever
Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe
Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor
Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile
daroamer said:
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Well it all evens out. There are obviously plenty of Kinect viral marketters on this site..
Metallicube said:
Um, could it be because Kinect Sports is 6 weeks old while Halo Reach is over twice that? And STILL Halo is close to Kinect Sports. Black Ops has sold 8.5 million copies. Halo Reach has sold near 7 million. With those kinds of sales numbers, being a massive hardware mover is essentially a given. A game that sell 5 1/2 million during its first week alone WILL move consoles by default, lots of them. I don't see how that is hard to understand. I find it funny that the games ACTUALLY responsible for the surge in 360 sales get no credit from these supposed deticated 360 fans.. I guarantee you that Kinect Sports is not moving most of those 360s. Do you think many people would be willing to shell out $300 for Kinect Sports, when they can get play a game very similar on the Wii for much cheaper? Obviously, I can't completely prove me point, just like you can't completely disprove it, but here's about as close as I can get to attempt that: If you recall, 360 sales boosted massively on the strength of the slim model, as well as Black Ops and Halo. Black Ops propelled 360 to 540,000 units from 375,000. On the week of Kinect, 360 sales boosted only to 375,000 from 223,000, and this was still nearing the holiday season. Even the release of Halo Reach brought 360 sales to 270,000 up from 161,000 the week before, and this was back in September, long before the holidays. Now lets look at last year at this exact same time for some perspective.. Last year the week of Dec. 12th, Xbox 360 sold 538,000, somewhat comparable sales to this year, and this was before the slim model. Funny how fast people forget their history, especially when that history is only months old.. But I guess it's easy for people to forget things when it doesn't suit their purposes. Remember, it is always always always GAMES that sell hardware, not peripherals. People are not running out and spending $300 to buy a motion camera peripheral, especially one that currently supports 15 games, most of which are rated below 70%. |
What's Kinect Sports? Oh wait, it's a game. An unbundled game. It isn't hardware, it's a piece of software, and the fact that you can't accept this is laughable.
Your point on how old Halo is is completely irrelevant. We are talking about sales right now, not sales 12 weeks ago. And the fact is that Kinect Sports is outselling Halo. I realize how hard it must be for you to comprehend how Kinect Sports can outsell Halo, but it has.
Your point on games selling hardware is hilarious considering you ignore that Kinect Sports is a piece of software.
I'm done debating you. You ignore every fact presented to you because you can't grasp how Kinect could possibly be successful and instead babble some nonsense about the site being full of viral marketers. It's pretty obvious at this point that you hate Kinect and will never be able to analyze it objectively, so I'm done wasting my time by taking anything you say on Kinect seriously.
themanwithnoname said:
1.) What's Kinect Sports? Oh wait, it's a game. An unbundled game. It isn't hardware, it's a piece of software, and the fact that you can't accept this is laughable. 2.) Your point on how old Halo is is completely irrelevant. We are talking about sales right now, not sales 12 weeks ago. And the fact is that Kinect Sports is outselling Halo. I realize how hard it must be for you to comprehend how Kinect Sports can outsell Halo, but it has. 3.) Your point on games selling hardware is hilarious considering you ignore that Kinect Sports is a piece of software. 4.) I'm done debating you. You ignore every fact presented to you because you can't grasp how Kinect could possibly be successful and instead babble some nonsense about the site being full of viral marketers. It's pretty obvious at this point that you hate Kinect and will never be able to analyze it objectively, so I'm done wasting my time by taking anything you say on Kinect seriously. |
1.) Right.. I realize it's an unbundled game. Did I say it wasn't?
2.) You're right. We are talking about sales right now. And right now, Halo Reach has sold over 5 million. Kinect Sports has sold 775,000. Which do you thnk is more effective at moving hardware?
3.) Again, how did I ignore that it was software?
4.) Yes, I admit it. I truly CANNOT grasp how Kinect could be successful. I mean look at its games. Really, look at them. I cannot fathom how anyone can possibly support those games (especially these supposed hardcore gamers), yet many of these same people turn around and unfairly bash the Wii, which has titles like Mario Galaxy, NSMB, SSBB, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Zelda, Donkey Kong country, etc.. Just because I am biased doesn't make my arguments invalid.
But as I expected, the Kinect GAMES are not really selling, only the hardware, from the sheer noevelty. But eventually this will change, and the hardware sales will be brought down to the level of the software sales, unless some killer aps are released for it. It is ALWAYS games that moves hardware. Always.
heruamon said: I thought Blizzard reported bigger sales than 2.2 million...I know this is reporting retail, but the publisher has already said a MUCH higher number, so this is already outdated. |
this was answered like 5 times in the first 2 pages - this number does not include any digital sales while Blizzard's number does.
MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.
saicho said:
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The problem people are having is probably because Blizzard announced sales of 3.3 million in just one day where as VGC have it as 2.25 million for the entire week (five days from the 7th to the 11th). Now I am aware that VGC don't count digital downloads and Blizzard do, but can there really have been so many digital copies sold compared to hard copies (atleast 1.1 million digital downloads)?
Potable_Toe said:
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Yes and heres a good reason why. They had it up for download before the release day so people could play it exactly at midnight on day of release. The first thing you would see for a little bit was the advertisement when you went to log in. Its what my brother and his girlfriend did.
Metallicube said:
Well it all evens out. There are obviously plenty of Kinect viral marketters on this site.. |
Meanwhile you bash Kinect in every thread you can (usually while ignoring any facts that go against your argument) and even include anti-Kinect propoganda in your sig despite the fact that the Kinect launch bears absolutely no resemblance to the 32x launch. Facts be damned when hyperbole is so much more effective!
So who's paying you exactly?
Metallicube said:
1.) Right.. I realize it's an unbundled game. Did I say it wasn't? 2.) You're right. We are talking about sales right now. And right now, Halo Reach has sold over 5 million. Kinect Sports has sold 775,000. Which do you thnk is more effective at moving hardware? 3.) Again, how did I ignore that it was software? 4.) Yes, I admit it. I truly CANNOT grasp how Kinect could be successful. I mean look at its games. Really, look at them. I cannot fathom how anyone can possibly support those games (especially these supposed hardcore gamers), yet many of these same people turn around and unfairly bash the Wii, which has titles like Mario Galaxy, NSMB, SSBB, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Zelda, Donkey Kong country, etc.. Just because I am biased doesn't make my arguments invalid. But as I expected, the Kinect GAMES are not really selling, only the hardware, from the sheer noevelty. But eventually this will change, and the hardware sales will be brought down to the level of the software sales, unless some killer aps are released for it. It is ALWAYS games that moves hardware. Always. |
Wii - Week of Dec 06 2006 - Americas
Top 10 Wii Software Sold (Not including bundled games) - 1.55 million units
Kinect Games - Week of Dec 11 2010 - Americas
Top 7 Kinect Games Sold (Not including bundled games) - 2.16 million units
I only did 7 because I don't know how to sort the Kinect only games and only 7 were in the Xbox top 30.
Still, those 7 games are outselling the top 10 Wii games in approx the same time period by 600,000 units in the Americas.
So if Kinect isn't selling any games then Wii was much worse which is why it turned out to be such a gimmicky failure like so many at the time predicted.