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Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?


never mind ^^ thats why alot of people are hyped about a ps4. if sony play there cards write they know they have alooooot of people rpepared to buy a playsation. they have alot of aces, but in busness if u place an ace wrong it goes VERY weong

I don't agree. A huge mistake Sony made with PS1/PS2 was not having heavy hitters (huge proportion of console sales) and not having the well selling games first party. That way, all the casual PS2 players didn't have much to recognize the brand by. It'll be hard to bring older gamers from then back now. That's one of the much better things Sony's doing this generation though, :D.


No realy ^^ The age of anual home consols is dying and Sony and Microsoft know thta because there part of the reason. As the internet gets faster things such as online are going to kill home consols for good. Nintendo's gamble to make a new consol that does something different wont work because it could easily be mimicked in an instant for things such as onlive. The problem for nintendo is sony and microsoft are started sing cloud based technoligy long befoe anyone evn thought of it for games. if i had to guess id say next gen either sony of microsoft are going to join or apple is gona join with one of them. none of the big three have enough money to fund the growing costs of development expeshaly in a world where technoligy advances so quickly. The playstation brand howvere wether the people who got it or not liked it os the most well none gaming platform in the world. EVERYONE who knows what gaming is will know what a playsation is and may know what a wii is.

If like i and many toher think gaming i going cloudi think nintendo will have to change to being a software company. they simply dont have the resorces to match other cloud networks, as theywould have to start from scrath or payu a incredible amount of money to gte it off someone else. im gona make a thjread about this know ^^

Till I see the combined sales of the home consoles declining for a generation, I refuse to believe so. Do you know how many times random developments in technology have supposedly threatened the industry?

And honestly, cloud based technology is much farther off than you make it sound.

Oh, and why do you always make threads out of our discussions? Am I really that inspirational, :P?

ur not realy that inpritiational no. I just like to find out other people's opinions ^^ yh but never before have sony and microsoft been using the technoligy themselves. they may nothave usd it in games yet but anyone can see its going to be MASSIVE. as data takes up more room we need bigger hardrives which cos more and more. ot there is plan B. make a infinite storage lace that can run aything.



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 Nothing wrong with using big franchises along the side of new ones like every company. If they didnt people would just be screming for them like they do now for some of them. It would be a stupid move not to make them. ( I think they have learned that from New Super Mario Bros. Sells)AS for the rereleases. They sell bucket loads so who can blame them? I own  many of them myself and will probably own more in the future. Why? I find them just that dam good.



Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

Look at Wii's bestselling game. Wii Sports. No? Wii Play. New franchise. Look at DS' bestselling game. Nintendogs. New franchise.

Really, the most work Nintendo's put into is new franchises. Sure, they've added on to old franchises as well, but don't pretend that everyone doesn't do that. New franchises are always second priority. For everyone.


He meens a new character. Not incredibly low budget games they make just to weasel more money out of people ^^

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MrT-Tar said:

Nintendo's created a fuck load of new IPs this generation, just with the exception of Brain Training, Wii... and Nintendogs they haven't been that major and haven't seen anywhere near the success of the likes of Mario, Zelda, etc.

Off the top of my head from Nintendo first and second parties this generation:

Wii...

Tomodachi Collection

Brain Age

Nintendogs

Disaster: DoC

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Captain Rainbow

Daigasso/Jam with the Band

Ouenden/Elite Beat Agents

Electroplankton

English/Maths/Face Training

Maboshi

Lonpos

Big Brain Acadamy

Style Boutique

Rhythm Heaven

Photo Dojo

Kappa Trail

 

I want to stress that this is just off the top of my head, and there are probably more I've forgotten.  I've excluded games like Endless Ocean and Another Code, which were developed by 3rd parties.  You are factually wrong to say Nintendo 'hardly create any new IPs'.  I would prefer it if Nintendo made less IPs and focussed more attention and marketing on each one.  Nintendo is missing a major new so called 'hardcore' IPs this gen, like how they had Pikmin last gen and Pokemon and 1080 in the 5th gen.

 

I going to quote myself just so everyone can see my original post which shits all over the argument that Nintendo doesn't create new IPs.

And I would also like to add in Steel Diver for next generation.  It's a so called 'hardcore' new IP based around warfare.  Surely you people recognise that?




Nintendo created a new IP. It became the best selling game of all time.



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Im never going to understand how this myth got started that they dont.



This depends on what you mean by franchise? Franchise is generally more then one title. As such I can think of three newer franchises. Pikmin, Animal Crossing and CustumRobo. Now their are others like BattalionWars, Nintendogs and Brain Training that came out more recently.

I think Nintendo right now is focused on existing IP's whether they are forgotten or used alot. Take Kid Icarus for example their hasn't been a KI game in over 10 years. Metroid Prime their hadn't been a Metroid game in a long time.

Also I remember Nintendo launching Giest and Eternal Darkness during the GameCube era. I think if studios like Retro decide they want to make a new IP I don't think Nintendo would disagree. I have to admit other publishers are launching far more new IP's then Nintendo.

But Nintendo doesn't need to define itself with new IP's like say Microsoft. Even Sony needs fresh blood more then Nintendo. I think Nintendo will do just fine creating 2-3 franchises a generation or two.



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The question should be, why in the hell does Nintendo have to create new characters when the ones they have had from the 1980s sell in the tens of million no matter which gen they appear in?

The obvious counter argument is, with Sony and Microsoft creating new IPs such as Halo, God of War, Gears of War, Uncharted, Viva Pinata, and on, Nintendo is losing the young gamers because they are growing up on what their big brother is playing. Since little brothers look up to big brothers as a role model, they will gain some of the biases their older brothers have against other games.

Problem is, older brothers like me grew up on Nintendo games. We may be playing more mature games now, but that does not mean there is no nostalgia.

Nostalgia is underrated, Nintendo knows this and this is why they drop a core game once to twice a generation. They understand that if you go the Tony Hawk route with franchises, then in a couple of generations the game will have had so many bad sequels and crossovers, any sense of nostalgia is equally weighted against a craptastic game like Green Day: Rock Band, Call of Duty: World at War, any game with LEGO in it, and on.

 Nowadays, publishers have such a short-term, quarter by quarter outlook they lose sight of what made a franchise great and sacrifice it on the 2K"fill in the year" altar because they need to meet their internal expectations. You see this right now with Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed. Both had games in 2009, released a new game in 2010, and will release another in 2011.

It is only a matter of time before annual releasing of Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed milks the franchise out of any nostalgia milk. Once the nostalgia is gone, a new franchise will replace it and the cycle of killing a great game will continue.         



MrT-Tar said:
MrT-Tar said:

Nintendo's created a fuck load of new IPs this generation, just with the exception of Brain Training, Wii... and Nintendogs they haven't been that major and haven't seen anywhere near the success of the likes of Mario, Zelda, etc.

Off the top of my head from Nintendo first and second parties this generation:

Wii...

Tomodachi Collection

Brain Age

Nintendogs

Disaster: DoC

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Captain Rainbow

Daigasso/Jam with the Band

Ouenden/Elite Beat Agents

Electroplankton

English/Maths/Face Training

Maboshi

Lonpos

Big Brain Acadamy

Style Boutique

Rhythm Heaven

Photo Dojo

Kappa Trail

 

I want to stress that this is just off the top of my head, and there are probably more I've forgotten.  I've excluded games like Endless Ocean and Another Code, which were developed by 3rd parties.  You are factually wrong to say Nintendo 'hardly create any new IPs'.  I would prefer it if Nintendo made less IPs and focussed more attention and marketing on each one.  Nintendo is missing a major new so called 'hardcore' IPs this gen, like how they had Pikmin last gen and Pokemon and 1080 in the 5th gen.

 

I going to quote myself just so everyone can see my original post which shits all over the argument that Nintendo doesn't create new IPs.

And I would also like to add in Steel Diver for next generation.  It's a so called 'hardcore' new IP based around warfare.  Surely you people recognise that?

If I hadn't played them, since I don't own a Nintendo console, then they don't exist.

They can't exist if I don't know about them, right?

You know, like when I cover my eyes and don't see people around me. That means they don't see me, neither.



Galaki said:
MrT-Tar said:
MrT-Tar said:

Nintendo's created a fuck load of new IPs this generation, just with the exception of Brain Training, Wii... and Nintendogs they haven't been that major and haven't seen anywhere near the success of the likes of Mario, Zelda, etc.

Off the top of my head from Nintendo first and second parties this generation:

Wii...

Tomodachi Collection

Brain Age

Nintendogs

Disaster: DoC

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Captain Rainbow

Daigasso/Jam with the Band

Ouenden/Elite Beat Agents

Electroplankton

English/Maths/Face Training

Maboshi

Lonpos

Big Brain Acadamy

Style Boutique

Rhythm Heaven

Photo Dojo

Kappa Trail

 

I want to stress that this is just off the top of my head, and there are probably more I've forgotten.  I've excluded games like Endless Ocean and Another Code, which were developed by 3rd parties.  You are factually wrong to say Nintendo 'hardly create any new IPs'.  I would prefer it if Nintendo made less IPs and focussed more attention and marketing on each one.  Nintendo is missing a major new so called 'hardcore' IPs this gen, like how they had Pikmin last gen and Pokemon and 1080 in the 5th gen.

 

I going to quote myself just so everyone can see my original post which shits all over the argument that Nintendo doesn't create new IPs.

And I would also like to add in Steel Diver for next generation.  It's a so called 'hardcore' new IP based around warfare.  Surely you people recognise that?

If I hadn't played them, since I don't own a Nintendo console, then they don't exist.

They can't exist if I don't know about them, right?

You know, like when I cover my eyes and don't see people around me. That means they don't see me, neither.


the saddest thing is that looking at this thread I think you're right

The statement, which is wrong, that 'Nintendo has no new IPs' annoys me even more than 'the PS3 has no games' and almost as much as 'If a game isn't filled with Sex, bloody violence and drugs it isn't "mature" or "hardcore"'.