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Final-Fan said:
Well, I can't comment on why MG and SAK acted the way they did. But I guess I can answer some of the other points.
For Wonk's post: It's pretty straightforward. Lynching SAK was better than nobody, but not (I decided) better than Scottie. Later on I (wrongly) felt that he wasn't a good lynch target.
I may not have mentioned MG at all; or I may have only given a couple words on the subject of his absence/worthlessness. I didn't give him much thought beyond that he was mostly gone and useless when he was here. (Which was hardly unusual at the time.)
As for wanting to lynch j0 but settling for Stefl -- why yes, yes I was. But now that you've brought it up, why would I do that if I was mafia? Wouldn't I either stick to my guns and try to lynch j0 (instead of fellow mafia*), or be a more active proponent of what I would know would be a lynch of mafia, so as to gain townie cred?
FInally, in what way do you reckon "See you tomorrow" is suspicious? Because it implies an assumption I'd live through the night? Well, maybe it was arrogant, I don't know, all I can say is the only reason I said it was to let you know that I was leaving, so nobody should say something expecting me to reply before the next day.
*not that I don't think he is mafia.
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I wouldn't expect you to explain why MG, Stefl, and SAK all pretty much ignored you.(as well as each other) Simply pointing the fact out. I'll be taking the same look at confirmed scum with hat(and everyone for that matter) after I respond to any other posts on my way down the page, but looking at Wonk's links there was a lot between SAK and hat at the very least.
For your bolded question, I meant the nested quote may have been a subtle attempt to redirect the lynch onto j0. So easily switching over to Stefl(as well as the other votes) could be trying to gain credibility as a confused townie. I believe I've already made it clear that I don't automatically think anyone that is quite vocal in the lynching of mafia gets townie credibility. Unless there's good evidence, then only fellow scum actually know each other, while townies rely on intuition and a bit of luck.(especially early on)
To jump topics for a second, here's an example of what I mean by evidence; I'd say that zexen had the relationship between nen and SAK reversed. Like MG's vote on scottie, SAK's calling out of two players(even if they had since been replaced) was certainly done to draw suspicion onto townies. It's not 100% certain they were doing that to save a scum nen from lynch, because they could've just been adding a town nen into a pot of suspicious players that would hopefully be lynched over the next several days. On the other hand, if nen was lynched first(day two) then I'd say it would've been a very strong(as in more likely than the reverse) case that SAK(and MG) were also scum trying to draw attention away from a teammate. Actually, now that I think about it...(post to follow)
And yes, I thought it was suspicious because it implies that you'd live through the night. I point it out, because SAK made a similar slip here in saying "I never saw you defending me in that post (I'm not sure how you got to that, unless you mean by your first paragraph on his reasoning why he voted me), since if whoever gets lynched besides me, (or I get killed, which is highly unlikely), I'm pretty sure you would pressure me much more."
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