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jesus kung fu magic on 15 December 2010
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"Performance wise, there are claims............."

You havent even played FM3 yet you believe that GT5 should be rated equally? Im not saying either or but seriously......

Word of advice: Drop the topic now.....a shitstorm is coming

I have played Forza 3... What makes you think I haven't? And about dropping the topic, it's really sad if you believe comparing two games in the same genre is a taboo.

Oh well, at least you don't speak about yourself in third person anymore...

Your wording in your op leads people to believe either you havent played FM3 at all.....or havent played it enough to even be writing the op.

The dropping the topic part wasnt because you were comparing the 2 said games......but because you havent played both games enough (or at all in FM3's case) to even be making a comparison.

And third person talk is coming soon......

Point me to the parts of the OP that suggest I haven't played the game (besides the point about the career mode, I admit I haven't played that). I've played enough races to see the differences in the gameplay and mechanics of the two games.


Actually my biggest one is right there in the first post of this wall of text........you should have judged the performance on your own merit not on "claims".That one sentence makes it seem like all you have done is played exhibition mode and online mode somewhat........but it does show that you havent played FM3 enough

I did judge the performance on my own merit; my conclusion was that both games run sufficiently smoothly. The "claim" was there just to show the reader that some people believe that GT5 does not run as smoothly as Forza.

And you keep coming back to this, what would you consider enough playtime? I haven't played career, where the bulk of the offline gameplay lies, and I never judged the game for that. I have raced in the game quite a bit, so I believe I have sufficient experience with the game to make a comparison about the gameplay, which is what I did.

I have no idea how much time you actually put into FM3.....im just telling you what the op lead me to believe.

Yet you give me no good reason why the OP led you to believe that.


And yet everything I said to you before doesnt exist right?



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ultima on 15 December 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:
ultima said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
ultima said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
ultima said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
ultima said:
jesus kung fu magic said:

"Performance wise, there are claims............."

You havent even played FM3 yet you believe that GT5 should be rated equally? Im not saying either or but seriously......

Word of advice: Drop the topic now.....a shitstorm is coming

I have played Forza 3... What makes you think I haven't? And about dropping the topic, it's really sad if you believe comparing two games in the same genre is a taboo.

Oh well, at least you don't speak about yourself in third person anymore...

Your wording in your op leads people to believe either you havent played FM3 at all.....or havent played it enough to even be writing the op.

The dropping the topic part wasnt because you were comparing the 2 said games......but because you havent played both games enough (or at all in FM3's case) to even be making a comparison.

And third person talk is coming soon......

Point me to the parts of the OP that suggest I haven't played the game (besides the point about the career mode, I admit I haven't played that). I've played enough races to see the differences in the gameplay and mechanics of the two games.


Actually my biggest one is right there in the first post of this wall of text........you should have judged the performance on your own merit not on "claims".That one sentence makes it seem like all you have done is played exhibition mode and online mode somewhat........but it does show that you havent played FM3 enough

I did judge the performance on my own merit; my conclusion was that both games run sufficiently smoothly. The "claim" was there just to show the reader that some people believe that GT5 does not run as smoothly as Forza.

And you keep coming back to this, what would you consider enough playtime? I haven't played career, where the bulk of the offline gameplay lies, and I never judged the game for that. I have raced in the game quite a bit, so I believe I have sufficient experience with the game to make a comparison about the gameplay, which is what I did.

I have no idea how much time you actually put into FM3.....im just telling you what the op lead me to believe.

Yet you give me no good reason why the OP led you to believe that.


And yet everything I said to you before doesnt exist right?

It exists, it just isn't a good reason.



           

Carl on 15 December 2010

Guys...

Cut down the quote trains! ¬_¬



                            

Cypher1980 on 15 December 2010

Has anyone actually verified the GT5's physics are unmatched.

I'm not saying they're not just that there doesnt seem to be any impirical evidence to support the claims.

Just a load of fans essentially saying its an indisputable constant.

This despite one reviewer claiming the Physics model is largely the same as in the original GT. Which is why he was scoring the game so low.

To give another reason why I feel there is a disparity look no further than Development time.

Forza 3 got pushed out the door on time and was developed in an acceptable time frame.

I wont comment on GT5's dev cycle other than it was longer than Forza 2 and 3 put together.

Also the hype for GT5 got stupid and probably alienated some reviewers.



darklich13 on 15 December 2010
ultima said:

2. Performance wise, there are claims that Forza runs smoother and has less screen tearing. To be honest, I've never noticed any drop in FPS or any screen tearing in GT5. I'm not sure where these claims come from, but even if they are true, they do not detract from gameplay. It must also be noted that GT5 is rendered at a higher resolution and has more cars on the track.

Forza does run much smoother than GT5.  Forza 3 is LOCKED at 60 fps with almost no screen tearing.  GT5 framerate lowers quite a bit when there are more than 4 cars on the screen at once and tears like crazy.  GT5 does run at a righer res and does have more cars on the track but Forza is also doing things that GT5 is not doing.  Tire Deformation, instant rewind, more detailed enviroments, and the ability to add up to 1000 vinal layers per side on a vehical to name a few.



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ultraslick on 15 December 2010

Certain PSN/XBL games score higher average scores than full retail games which are overall richer experiences.

It would be nice if scores were all somehow scored in accordance with one another so we knew for certain which games were absolutely better than others in some fantastical factual nature.

 

However such a system would never ever be possible due to the nature of how reviews are scored based on preference and opinion. We need some sort of super god like machine to score all games against one another from now on.

All I know is that GT5 offers more than Forza; FACT.



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Joel12345 on 15 December 2010

Maybe its because it has more...features!?

ZOMG!ZOMG!ZOMG!

...jk haha I haven't played either,but GT5 got shot down for no reason.



ethomaz on 15 December 2010

Different standards.

Anyway GT5 is way better than Forza 3... not comparable.



AdventWolf on 15 December 2010

Looking at it now, Forza has a lot more perfect scores. Of about 4 of them, the same reviewer hasn't given a review of GT5.



NudeGazelle on 16 December 2010

Okay, seriously, the menus are beautiful. This is my first time ever playing a Grant Turismo game and I can tell you, that i've had no trouble at all navigating the menus.

Also, the enviroments stand out horrifically. Probably not on a lot of the maps, but whilst I was playing on a nascar track (can't remember the name sorry, it was circular if that helps) the jaggies and low resolution environments just stood out, it was horrible.