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Chibi.V.29 on 15 December 2010
Ajescent said:

50mins and it's only part 1? Jeez...


Thats what i was thinking O.o



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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lestatdark on 15 December 2010
ethomaz said:

Another interesting article.

GT5 is ruining reviews for us all

GT5 >>>>> Reviews IMO

HAhahahahaha XD. That was an amazing article, kudos to the writter Ian Dransfield for some amazing sarcasm there, especially for the disclaimer:

"[Disclaimer for the purposes of the internet being full of people who don’t understand anything: this is made up of ham-fisted sarcasm. It is meant to be an attempt at humour. If you take it seriously and respond accordingly, you are an idiot.]"

Amazing work



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DonFerrari on 15 December 2010
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
goforgold said:
lestatdark said:

and what I find funny is how they praise things most reviews bashed.

the menus for example, straight forward, no confusion everything at all, yet almost every other reviewer "but but teh menus are too complicated, bad menus blah blah blah"

even the crash sounds.

they could give this game a 6/10 and will agree whole heartedly

this will be 1 in the 1% of GT5 reviews that will be actually creditable in my opinion.  

next part they said will be out sometime next year, wow 

Yup, that's why I loved their punchline in the end. Really put to light all the bad professionalism that most reviews had. 

Next part will probably be when they unlock everything, meaning they'll have to reach level 40 in both A-Spec and B-Spec to unlock Nurburgring 24H endurance. 


Anyone that played GT in any of the iterations knows that it's impossible to judge how good it's without some 1000 hours of love =]

You're completely right, since that's about the time that it took me to get 100% in GT4 xD. That's one of the things I love about GT games, the amount of content they put out is staggering.

Even GT3 (the less content filled GT game), lasted me for some good couple of hundred hours before putting it down.


Doing a SP count experience.... GT4 1000 hours for 40 bucks (or GT5 probably 1500 hours for 60 bucks) 4 cents for hour 

For a Shooter Like Halo, GoW or KZ... 6~8h for 60 bucks.... 10 dolars for hour of game...

Which has the best cost-benefit for you?

That's why my two favourite and most played genres are both RPG's and Simulators. Those are the two best cost-benefit genres out there. 


I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

lestatdark on 15 December 2010
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
goforgold said:
lestatdark said:

and what I find funny is how they praise things most reviews bashed.

the menus for example, straight forward, no confusion everything at all, yet almost every other reviewer "but but teh menus are too complicated, bad menus blah blah blah"

even the crash sounds.

they could give this game a 6/10 and will agree whole heartedly

this will be 1 in the 1% of GT5 reviews that will be actually creditable in my opinion.  

next part they said will be out sometime next year, wow 

Yup, that's why I loved their punchline in the end. Really put to light all the bad professionalism that most reviews had. 

Next part will probably be when they unlock everything, meaning they'll have to reach level 40 in both A-Spec and B-Spec to unlock Nurburgring 24H endurance. 


Anyone that played GT in any of the iterations knows that it's impossible to judge how good it's without some 1000 hours of love =]

You're completely right, since that's about the time that it took me to get 100% in GT4 xD. That's one of the things I love about GT games, the amount of content they put out is staggering.

Even GT3 (the less content filled GT game), lasted me for some good couple of hundred hours before putting it down.


Doing a SP count experience.... GT4 1000 hours for 40 bucks (or GT5 probably 1500 hours for 60 bucks) 4 cents for hour 

For a Shooter Like Halo, GoW or KZ... 6~8h for 60 bucks.... 10 dolars for hour of game...

Which has the best cost-benefit for you?

That's why my two favourite and most played genres are both RPG's and Simulators. Those are the two best cost-benefit genres out there. 


I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.

Damn that's a huge gaming session xD. I'm lucky if I get enough time to play more than 4 hours a day  



Current PC Build

CPU - i7 8700K 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz turbo) 6 cores OC'd to 5.2 GHz with Watercooling (Hydro Series H110i) | MB - Gigabyte Z370 HD3P ATX | Gigabyte GTX 1080ti Gaming OC BLACK 11G (1657 MHz Boost Core / 11010 MHz Memory) | RAM - Corsair DIMM 32GB DDR4, 2400 MHz | PSU - Corsair CX650M (80+ Bronze) 650W | Audio - Asus Essence STX II 7.1 | Monitor - Samsung U28E590D 4K UHD, Freesync, 1 ms, 60 Hz, 28"

DonFerrari on 15 December 2010
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
goforgold said:
lestatdark said:

and what I find funny is how they praise things most reviews bashed.

the menus for example, straight forward, no confusion everything at all, yet almost every other reviewer "but but teh menus are too complicated, bad menus blah blah blah"

even the crash sounds.

they could give this game a 6/10 and will agree whole heartedly

this will be 1 in the 1% of GT5 reviews that will be actually creditable in my opinion.  

next part they said will be out sometime next year, wow 

Yup, that's why I loved their punchline in the end. Really put to light all the bad professionalism that most reviews had. 

Next part will probably be when they unlock everything, meaning they'll have to reach level 40 in both A-Spec and B-Spec to unlock Nurburgring 24H endurance. 


Anyone that played GT in any of the iterations knows that it's impossible to judge how good it's without some 1000 hours of love =]

You're completely right, since that's about the time that it took me to get 100% in GT4 xD. That's one of the things I love about GT games, the amount of content they put out is staggering.

Even GT3 (the less content filled GT game), lasted me for some good couple of hundred hours before putting it down.


Doing a SP count experience.... GT4 1000 hours for 40 bucks (or GT5 probably 1500 hours for 60 bucks) 4 cents for hour 

For a Shooter Like Halo, GoW or KZ... 6~8h for 60 bucks.... 10 dolars for hour of game...

Which has the best cost-benefit for you?

That's why my two favourite and most played genres are both RPG's and Simulators. Those are the two best cost-benefit genres out there. 


I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.

Damn that's a huge gaming session xD. I'm lucky if I get enough time to play more than 4 hours a day  


During the week i can't play because i work in a lot of other cities and always traveling... but this weekend my GF were kind enough and let me play a lot as were my debuting day with my lovely GT5 =]

I would be a happy man if i could play 4h a day during week.

EDIT: And i have a major complain to Kaz... why every new GT he make the challenges even more challenging?? I'm getting nervous into getting gold in the test course passing those shitty Kombis (Volks Type 2)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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lestatdark on 15 December 2010
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.

Damn that's a huge gaming session xD. I'm lucky if I get enough time to play more than 4 hours a day  


During the week i can't play because i work in a lot of other cities and always traveling... but this weekend my GF were kind enough and let me play a lot as were my debuting day with my lovely GT5 =]

I would be a happy man if i could play 4h a day during week.

EDIT: And i have a major complain to Kaz... why every new GT he make the challenges even more challenging?? I'm getting nervous into getting gold in the test course passing those shitty Kombis (Volks Type 2)

Don't worry, that event isn't very difficult to get a gold. The A.I cars brake a lot on Chicago and Hammerhead corners, and you can brake early into Bacharach because they always go wide. 

The real test in the Top Gear events is the Intermediate event...A lotus Elise 111R on Comfort Hard tyres is an abomination to steer.



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DonFerrari on 15 December 2010
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.

Damn that's a huge gaming session xD. I'm lucky if I get enough time to play more than 4 hours a day  


During the week i can't play because i work in a lot of other cities and always traveling... but this weekend my GF were kind enough and let me play a lot as were my debuting day with my lovely GT5 =]

I would be a happy man if i could play 4h a day during week.

EDIT: And i have a major complain to Kaz... why every new GT he make the challenges even more challenging?? I'm getting nervous into getting gold in the test course passing those shitty Kombis (Volks Type 2)

Don't worry, that event isn't very difficult to get a gold. The A.I cars brake a lot on Chicago and Hammerhead corners, and you can brake early into Bacharach because they always go wide. 

The real test in the Top Gear events is the Intermediate event...A lotus Elise 111R on Comfort Hard tyres is an abomination to steer.


I tried to hard (3rd before last lap, so never saw they break... must do it with more easiness... i was spoiled by prologe were i had to do it always very fast)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Skeeuk on 15 December 2010
lestatdark said:
Skeeuk said:
lestatdark said:

Yup, they'll be showing more features in future shows, including the features that are added via the patches, like the mechanical damage and online leaderboards (coming late december). 

For a game with so much content (they even admitted it tops the grand majority of PC sims in content as well), it's normal to have such a massive review. 

I pity those "reviewers" who think that a couple of hours with GT5 is enough to give an actual review of it.


i agree ive been on gt5 so much my wife has started to complain. i just go in a zone with gt initial D ost playing.

they must have spent so much time on the handling physics its absolutly awesome.

im not trying to bash forza get it its a stunning game, but on gameplay the driving isnt as good. the best test mark for this is to load up both circuit de sarth or nordshliffe on both and take the same car round the track, the track gradient modeling on circuit de sarth is mindboggling

I did this, not to compare the differences between the driving in both games, as I feel that both capture the essence of racing simulation quite well (GT more than Forza though), but to compare track layouts.

I was amazed and quite shocked to see the difference in track width between both versions. In GT5 the track width feels quite right, especially if you compare the Le Mans track to it's real counterpart. In Forza 3 the track width is way too long. You can easily fit four cars side to side and still have some maneuvering space. I hadn't noticed this when I first played Forza 3.


all tracks on forza 3 have extra width i dunno why this is the case



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ethomaz on 15 December 2010
Skeeuk said:
lestatdark said:
Skeeuk said:
lestatdark said:

Yup, they'll be showing more features in future shows, including the features that are added via the patches, like the mechanical damage and online leaderboards (coming late december). 

For a game with so much content (they even admitted it tops the grand majority of PC sims in content as well), it's normal to have such a massive review. 

I pity those "reviewers" who think that a couple of hours with GT5 is enough to give an actual review of it.


i agree ive been on gt5 so much my wife has started to complain. i just go in a zone with gt initial D ost playing.

they must have spent so much time on the handling physics its absolutly awesome.

im not trying to bash forza get it its a stunning game, but on gameplay the driving isnt as good. the best test mark for this is to load up both circuit de sarth or nordshliffe on both and take the same car round the track, the track gradient modeling on circuit de sarth is mindboggling

I did this, not to compare the differences between the driving in both games, as I feel that both capture the essence of racing simulation quite well (GT more than Forza though), but to compare track layouts.

I was amazed and quite shocked to see the difference in track width between both versions. In GT5 the track width feels quite right, especially if you compare the Le Mans track to it's real counterpart. In Forza 3 the track width is way too long. You can easily fit four cars side to side and still have some maneuvering space. I hadn't noticed this when I first played Forza 3.


all tracks on forza 3 have extra width i dunno why this is the case

To make it more easy than a real simulator.



Mummelmann on 15 December 2010
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:
lestatdark said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm guilty of both... altough I still love action/plataformer and fighting games =] we must mix everything a little...

Even I get a little dozzled after 40h playing GT5 in a weekend.

Damn that's a huge gaming session xD. I'm lucky if I get enough time to play more than 4 hours a day  


During the week i can't play because i work in a lot of other cities and always traveling... but this weekend my GF were kind enough and let me play a lot as were my debuting day with my lovely GT5 =]

I would be a happy man if i could play 4h a day during week.

EDIT: And i have a major complain to Kaz... why every new GT he make the challenges even more challenging?? I'm getting nervous into getting gold in the test course passing those shitty Kombis (Volks Type 2)

Don't worry, that event isn't very difficult to get a gold. The A.I cars brake a lot on Chicago and Hammerhead corners, and you can brake early into Bacharach because they always go wide. 

The real test in the Top Gear events is the Intermediate event...A lotus Elise 111R on Comfort Hard tyres is an abomination to steer.


I simply cannot finish that Elise challenge! Raaaaaaaage! Its slides all over the place like a bar of soap on a mirror.