Why would the Wii have spiked in October? What major games were released for the system that pushed the sales higher?

October 360 hardware: 585,966
October 360 software: 3,973,020

November 360 hardware: 1,020,659
November 360 software: 9,798,603

360 hardware: 42.60% increase
360 software: 59.46% increase

October Wii hardware: 480,132
October Wii software: 1,564,128

November Wii hardware: 1,304,870
November Wii software: 6,839,388

Wii hardware: 63.20% increase
Wii software: 77.13% increase

360 software attach rate increase: 16.86%
Wii software attach rate increase: 13.93%

Guess what eugene? The 360 gets a much more favorable attach rate boost from this comparison than the Wii. Any other complaints you want to make due to your ignorance of the numbers?

umm, I think this proves that this entire topic is wrong more than anything I have said. The 360 is indeed the software king for attach rates.  The 360's software attach rates are actually getting stronger, so Bod's entire topic is wrong based on these facts. All this while the Wii experienced a 77% increase in software sales vs a 55% increase in software sales for the Xbox 360. Nothing was constant relatively as you said.

No, it proves that when you release 3 big games (CoD4, AC, and Mass Effect) it has a larger software attach rate than 1 big game.  I'm sorry, but are you 3?  Do you have any understanding of mathematics, statistics, or even simple logic?  Because I feel like I'm trying to teach a toddler.  Although toddlers are at least open-minded and tend to absorb new information, whereas you seem to have a wall of ignorance between you and facts.  

Once again, I'd like to teach you the word "relative."  Can we learn this word today?  It would help out a lot in future conversations (if you could call what you do conversing).  The Wii and 360 both experienced a hardware and software boost in November. The difference is that the 360 got a higher attach rate increase, whereas the Wii had a higher hardware increase.  

The entire point Bod is trying to make is that the Wii will not need to outsell the 360's hardware by some astronomical amount to outsell it in software.  He has proved that very clearly, as have I.  While the 360 and Wii both saw increases in November, the fact that the Wii and PS3 finally surpassed 50% marketshare in hardware allowed them to take over 50% market share in software.  This shows that the 360 will most likely be passed in North American software sales when the Wii has sold around 10-15% more hardware.  Not 50% or 100% more hardware like many forum members have claimed.  

I'm sorry that you are unable to grasp this concept, but if you insist on continually trolling this topic and making an absolute fool of yourself you are welcome to do so.  I'm done playing with children for the night, and I have studying to do.  

Im done also, but I dont believe this month is a complete picture of how each console stands on software sales. Like I said, you would have to look at a years worth of data to make a conclusion. Im speaking attach rates, not total software sold cause, the 360 would kill this year cause it had a larger installed base all year.  If at the end of a year, the software attach rate is only 15% higher then yeah, the Wii would only have to sell 15% more to match it, but if attach rates for one year are drasticly different, then no. One month is not a general picture of anything. The Wii also had many big games this month by the way.

Im done also, but I dont believe this month is a complete picture of how each console stands on software sales. Like I said, you would have to look at a years worth of data to make a conclusion. Im speaking attach rates, not total software sold cause, the 360 would kill this year cause it had a larger installed base all year.  If at the end of a year, the software attach rate is only 15% higher then yeah, the Wii would only have to sell 15% more to match it, but if attach rates for one year are drasticly different, then no. One month is not a general picture of anything. The Wii also had many big games this month by the way.

For the conversation at hand (the one that's spanned the last three pages), I'm not using VGChartz' figures, although that would be okay too, since that also includes bundles of Forza and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. 

The total software ratios come from Microsoft, as a response to the NPD sales (the link can be found in my original post). The NPD does not track Wii Sports, so presumably Microsoft is not including Wii Sports in their totals, either. They had 51 percent marketshare -- according to NPD -- during October, and sold 54 percent of the months' total software.

I AM, however, using VGChartz data for the last four weeks, which have the PS3's Eurpean software figures matching the 360's despite having 1/2 the userbase, and the Wii's total, worldwide software outselling the 360's total, worldwide software, by a handy enough margin to suggest that it's probably true (meaning, even if Ioi has messed up by some significant percentage, the Wii would still be ahead). That's another argument, however, that no one seems to be contesting.

All in all, I made four separate points, each to provide evidence that the PS3 and Wii's software really aren't that far behind the 360's. I absolutely agree that none should be taken as conclusive proof, it's a discussion, and I think there's room for counter point. For example, many of the early months of this year (all the way through at least June) have the 360 very, VERY heavily outselling the Wii and PS3's combined software totals, but it also had upwards of 75 percent marketshare in the earliest parts of the year, so it's really hard to tell what reasonable software sales would be at those times. The whole picture's distorted. 

Now that we're reaching reasonably comparable levels of hardware sales in the Americas... we are also reaching reasonably comparable levels of software sales in America. By the count of both NPD and VGChartz. In the Christmas season, the busiest software period of the year, no less. That's the point I'm making here, and it isn't really intended to be a chide against the 360, just a chide against unrealistic, gargantuan expectations of software sales on the system. It's not outselling PS3 or Wii software 2:1 or anything.