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TheSource on 23 December 2010

Well this year is pretty crappy for holiday-consoles in Japan officially:

PS2: Worst December ever (not surprising!)

Wii: Worst December ever (bad but these are still decentish numbers - adjusting for market size, a bit better than how PS3 is doing in the USA in Nov-Dec 2010). Might do 120k in its best Dec week.

PS3: Back Down to 2008 levels for December. Will sell worse than 2006, & 2009. Probably almost at 2007 and a bit ahead 2008 levels (around 250,000 in Dec). Might do 70k in its best Dec week.

X360: In 2009, X360 got to 10k in Dec, in 2008 it got to 20k (Jan 3 2009 week), in 2007 got to 9k, in Dec 2006 got to 38k, did 55k launch week in Dec 2005.



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chuckyj1 on 23 December 2010

It's like a yr. old game on an unpopular system in Japan...are weak sales a surprise?  If it would have been released same day it would have had much bigger numbers...But, a yr. with Timed-exclusive for PS3....I'm sure pretty much everybody in Japan who wanted to play it already did....

Chalk this up as not a big deal at all.



ps3_jrpg_gamer on 24 December 2010
jarrod said:
Boutros said:

Lower resolution/blurry.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=19165


Huh, weird? :/

Was EOE also lower res on PS3?  


also FF  XIII Inter has english like SO4 Inter has, anime menus that menus the 360 version had which is more popular than cg icons north american and european version had in 360 so i don 't see cgi icons included a positive



XanderZane on 25 December 2010
Reasonable said:
XanderZane said:
Seece said:

Releases 16th next week.

HW 12k / SW 100k

Your turn!


What...!?!? Why are they releasing the XBox 360 version in Japan now? That's like a slap in the face to XBox 360 owners in Japan. The game has been out for almost 3 months now and it sold 1.4 million on the PS3 it's first week. Does SquareEnix actually think Japan gamers would wake this long to purchase the game on the XBox 360? Are they kidding? I actually thought this was a joke. I'll be shocked if it sells more then 10K and it'll move maybe 6 - 7K systems. They should have released it a week after the PS3 version if anything. They wait until the PS3 sales frenzy dies down and then they try to release this crap on the 360. What a joke. Someone should buy ever copy and burn them all in front of SquareEnix building.

Yes, and Bioshock should have released a week later on PS3 after the 360 launch... oh wait...

This is why I say timed exclusives aren't good for the consumer.  Mind you, I notice most only complain when it goes against their console of choice rather than in general.

If timed exclusives are bad for one console's owners they're bad for every console's owners.


The timed exclusive for Bioshock was paid for by Microsoft though. I don't think Sony paid SquareEnix anything to not release FF XIII on the XBox 360 months later. I think they did that on their own. What's funny is the game wasn't even suppose to be released on the XBox 360 in Japan. I was actually fine with that. I would have rather they released an exclusive XBLA game that's not on PSN for the 360 instead of FF XIII. Everyone in Japanwho wanted to play FF XIII when it came out, ran out and bought a PS3 Slim and played it. The people who bought the XBox 360 version were most likely Americans living in Japan or a few other foreigners who could only afford one game console. SquareEnix had done a lot of things right for the XBox 360 in the past, but this was definitely their first mistake.

The other thing is SquareEnix usually adds addition content to the Intern'l version of the game, but they did absolutely nothing with this version. All they did was throw the Japanese voice /text into the game and that was it. Where are all the extras? i call BS.



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Chibi.V.29 on 25 December 2010

Lol everyone was expecting it to sell badly...but not 8k kinda badly XD



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Reasonable on 26 December 2010
XanderZane said:
Reasonable said:
XanderZane said:
Seece said:

Releases 16th next week.

HW 12k / SW 100k

Your turn!


What...!?!? Why are they releasing the XBox 360 version in Japan now? That's like a slap in the face to XBox 360 owners in Japan. The game has been out for almost 3 months now and it sold 1.4 million on the PS3 it's first week. Does SquareEnix actually think Japan gamers would wake this long to purchase the game on the XBox 360? Are they kidding? I actually thought this was a joke. I'll be shocked if it sells more then 10K and it'll move maybe 6 - 7K systems. They should have released it a week after the PS3 version if anything. They wait until the PS3 sales frenzy dies down and then they try to release this crap on the 360. What a joke. Someone should buy ever copy and burn them all in front of SquareEnix building.

Yes, and Bioshock should have released a week later on PS3 after the 360 launch... oh wait...

This is why I say timed exclusives aren't good for the consumer.  Mind you, I notice most only complain when it goes against their console of choice rather than in general.

If timed exclusives are bad for one console's owners they're bad for every console's owners.


The timed exclusive for Bioshock was paid for by Microsoft though. I don't think Sony paid SquareEnix anything to not release FF XIII on the XBox 360 months later. I think they did that on their own. What's funny is the game wasn't even suppose to be released on the XBox 360 in Japan. I was actually fine with that. I would have rather they released an exclusive XBLA game that's not on PSN for the 360 instead of FF XIII. Everyone in Japanwho wanted to play FF XIII when it came out, ran out and bought a PS3 Slim and played it. The people who bought the XBox 360 version were most likely Americans living in Japan or a few other foreigners who could only afford one game console. SquareEnix had done a lot of things right for the XBox 360 in the past, but this was definitely their first mistake.

The other thing is SquareEnix usually adds addition content to the Intern'l version of the game, but they did absolutely nothing with this version. All they did was throw the Japanese voice /text into the game and that was it. Where are all the extras? i call BS.

I can't see SE simply giving Sony a timed exclusive in Japan.  Something must have driven the agreement.  Might not have been money directly, but something would have sealed the agreement.  No company makes a potentially market limiting decision without seeing something in return.

My point though is really that, all through this generation, there has been too much focus on timed 'denial of service' tactics vs actually delivering true exclusives.  Both sides have done this so I'm not playing favourites, and I dislike it as all it does it encourage fanboy taunting in both directions and does a sub-set of consumers a disservice.

Full exclusives or nothing is my moto.



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jarrod on 26 December 2010
XanderZane said:


The timed exclusive for Bioshock was paid for by Microsoft though. I don't think Sony paid SquareEnix anything to not release FF XIII on the XBox 360 months later. I think they did that on their own. 

lol.  No chance in hell, it's pretty obvious "incentives" were paid out for the exact year of exclusivity in Japan.  Hell, SCE even gave it a hardware bundle.

Microsoft likely did the same thing for Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4.  And same thing for Nintendo with Tales of Graces.