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Mr Puggsly on 06 December 2010
makingmusic476 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
makingmusic476 said:

I wonder how people that don't play Call of Duty feel.  They're paying to subsidize a franchise they don't play.

You don't even know how much they get.

Lets go crazy and speculate! Say MS gives Activision $0.25 from every account and lets assume there are 10 million Gold accounts. That's millions of dollars for Activision just for their support.

Now what does Activision get for having the most popular game on PS3 and PSN? Hmmmm...

Somewhere around $30 per game sold on PS3?

Exactly, just the money they get from selling the software. Lets not forget a bill to operate their own servers.



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Mr Puggsly on 06 December 2010
KylieDog said:
Mr Puggsly said:
makingmusic476 said:

I wonder how people that don't play Call of Duty feel.  They're paying to subsidize a franchise they don't play.

You don't even know how much they get.

Lets go crazy and speculate! Say MS gives Activision $0.25 from every account and lets assume there are 10 million Gold accounts. That's millions of dollars for Activision just for their support.

Now what does Activision get for having the most popular game on PS3 and PSN? Hmmmm...


Millions of sales, poor them huh.

Right, and it helps sell Sony hardware.



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ameratsu on 06 December 2010
Pyro as Bill said:

Any guesses?


You are a plagiarist? You are not the one to connect the dots here, so give credit to the original source (Nuclear Muffin on neogaf).



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Mr Puggsly on 06 December 2010
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.

If a publisher has an extremely popular Xbox Live game, I can understand why they would want a piece of the profits. Especially if its a big reason people subscribe to Xbox Live and it helped make the service a success.

I highly doubt they upped the fees just to cover CoD.

Whether you pay for Xbox Live or PSN Plus, you're likely paying the fees for some features you don't actually use.



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Calmador on 06 December 2010
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.


Just wanted to say that ESPN recently made it's way to Xbox live and I think it's safe to say that part of the increase in price of XBL went to ESPN.



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

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thranx on 07 December 2010
makingmusic476 said:

I wonder how people that don't play Call of Duty feel.  They're paying to subsidize a franchise they don't play.


They are probably too busy watching ESPN, or netflix to care about it. That or they are tied up trying demos of games they might by off of live. Maybe they are chatting to their friends all playing different games about this over live as we speak. Who knows. But I bet the ones who have CoD are anticipating the exclusive content they will get (or timed).



Mr Puggsly on 07 December 2010
Calmador said:
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.


Just wanted to say that ESPN recently made it's way to Xbox live and I think it's safe to say that part of the increase in price of XBL went to ESPN.

How much do you think those services like ESPN, Facebook, Netflix, and others get really?

I doubt they even get a dollar from each account. They are free services elsewhere so MS can't be giving them a big piece.



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thranx on 07 December 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Calmador said:
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.


Just wanted to say that ESPN recently made it's way to Xbox live and I think it's safe to say that part of the increase in price of XBL went to ESPN.

How much do you think those services like ESPN, Facebook, Netflix, and others get really?

I doubt they even get a dollar from each account. They are free services elsewhere so MS can't be giving them a big piece.


the ESPN is not free anywhere that I know of.



Doobie_wop on 07 December 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.

If a publisher has an extremely popular Xbox Live game, I can understand why they would want a piece of the profits. Especially if its a big reason people subscribe to Xbox Live and it helped make the service a success.

I highly doubt they upped the fees just to cover CoD.

Whether you pay for Xbox Live or PSN Plus, you're likely paying the fees for some features you don't actually use.

I don't get it. You don't think it's wrong that Live members who aren't playing COD are being pushed into paying extra for a service they aren't using? If Live has 20 million Gold members, but only 10 million play Call of Duty, that means that they're kinda screwing the other 10 million. I don't know, I can't condone those kind of actions.

@thranx. Your trying to turn this into something that it isn't and your going to be burned eventually when people starting jumping into this thread and making list wars and all that nonsense.



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thranx on 07 December 2010
Doobie_wop said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KylieDog said:


Many games shift hardware, should they all get a proportionate percentage of the XBL fee?  If a game only has 20% of the players CoD does should it get only 5 cents, using your example figure.

 

Upping the fee for CoD onto people who do not play it is bogus.

If a publisher has an extremely popular Xbox Live game, I can understand why they would want a piece of the profits. Especially if its a big reason people subscribe to Xbox Live and it helped make the service a success.

I highly doubt they upped the fees just to cover CoD.

Whether you pay for Xbox Live or PSN Plus, you're likely paying the fees for some features you don't actually use.

I don't get it. You don't think it's wrong that Live members who aren't playing COD are being pushed into paying extra for a service they aren't using? If Live has 20 million Gold members, but only 10 million play Call of Duty, that means that they're kinda screwing the other 10 million. I don't know, I can't condone those kind of actions.

@thranx. Your trying to turn this into something that it isn't and your going to be burned eventually when people starting jumping into this thread and making list wars and all that nonsense.

I aaume most people here have had or have cable. How many channels do you pay for? how many do you watch? How many letters of complaint have you sent about paying for services you do not use?