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Hyruken on 02 December 2010
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:

I exppect GT5 to be adjusted up when more official numbers come.

I'm sure that will happen.



Would love to hear your theory of how it is under-tracked? :)

Also just noticed GT5 has falled to 20 on amazon chart....



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hallowedbeeddie on 02 December 2010
Carl2291 said:

I don't know what to make of these numbers.

Great GT5 numbers.

Don't know what to say about Hardware. Once again, I'm confused.


they good man, don´t worry. maybe they could have been a bit better, but they´re not bad ;)



spaceguy on 02 December 2010
*Sound Of Rain said:
postofficebuddy said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
CGI-Quality said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
CGI-Quality said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

Wii__Amazing sales should stay #1 in Others for the rest of 2010.

PS3__Great sales in Others but something is kind of laughable...

360__Good sales but lacking in comparison to PS3 and Wii.

What's laughable - didn't you say PS3 would be in 3rd place by now? I could have sworn that was you?

Yes, I predicted that PS3 would still be #3 in GT5 week Worldwide I never said anything about Others...Also, something is very laughable in my opinion!

What will happen if PS3 isn't in 3rd WW? Will "something still be laughable?

And what is so laughable? You keep saying it like it's some uber cool secret.

PS3 could end up #2 this week W.W and if it does I will admit that I was wrong and move on...same goes for if PS3 ends up as #2 W.W in Holiday #'s I will admit I should have never changed my prediction and again say that my prediction was wrong. After seeing Others #'s I still believe that 360 is going to outsell PS3 W.W due to PS3 not being very strong in America but like I said I could be wrong but we will see...

As for what is laughable...I will tell you the secret...Most PS3 fans on this site said that GT5 would be a monster system pusher...especially in Others...You following me so far? Ok, I will tell you the rest now...Some even said that it would be such a big push that it would leave the PS3 #1 in Others for the rest of 2010...some predicted it would cause such a bump that PS3 would be #1 this week W.W selling over 1 Million!

After seeing said massive push in its strongest region while GT5 week 1 sales are great and it did push a good amount of systems its no where near what MOST PS3 fans wanted.


Are people just choosing to ignore my posts? As I've pointed out 2 times in this thread already, all current signs suggest that we're undertracking GT5 in EMEAA. You really shouldn't make any hard, unequivocal statements about the impact it might have had on PS3 hardware until we have more data.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3787218

No offence to you or anything but to be honest I am getting very tired of hearing these kind of comments every single week Lol...Sales of anything I imagine are hard to track so games are no different. Its not going to be 100% accurate but its what we got! Wii could be overtracked and PS3 could be undertracked but who knows until the adjustments happen? People who make these comments and don't trust the sales I honestly don't understand why your on this site then...

Every week somebody and sometimes even many people say that the PS3 is undertracked which could be true but so could 360 and Wii...ever since the last big PS3 adjustments nobody will let it go and move on.

If you don't trust the #'s then why bother staying here or commenting in sales threads? GT5 did great this week and if it did lower than your expectations oh well but you shouldn't go around saying that PS3 or a game is undertracked every time sales don't go as you wanted it to...when Wii was #3 back in September/October was I happy? Not really but I didn't go around saying oh the Wii is undertracked!

You could be right and PS3 and GT5 could both be undertracked but for now these are the #'s we have and until a possible future adjustment happens I am sticking with them.

Yea but EMEAA is very much under question. It's like not pointing out the elephant in the room. personally I think that the numbers for ps3 are too high but that could be all wrong. Plus I am a little bias towards ps3 and don't care for sony.

So the numbers could be higher.

When shippments come out we will see, we will see. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

xbox 360.

GO f'ing get one.



ethomaz on 02 December 2010
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:

I exppect GT5 to be adjusted up when more official numbers come.

I'm sure that will happen.



Would love to hear your theory of how it is under-tracked? :)

Also just noticed GT5 has falled to 20 on amazon chart....

First or second page of this thread.



stopstopp on 02 December 2010

I bet GT5 is undertracked

I will give someone avatar control forever if it's not true. Bets?



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darthdevidem01 on 02 December 2010
hallowedbeeddie said:
Carl2291 said:

I don't know what to make of these numbers.

Great GT5 numbers.

Don't know what to say about Hardware. Once again, I'm confused.


they good man, don´t worry. maybe they could have been a bit better, but they´re not bad ;)

I love how your so positive in all your posts, keep it up!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

spaceguy on 02 December 2010
Hyruken said:
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:

I exppect GT5 to be adjusted up when more official numbers come.

I'm sure that will happen.



Would love to hear your theory of how it is under-tracked? :)

Also just noticed GT5 has falled to 20 on amazon chart....



well My thoery is that a ninja has been adding unit sales to ps3 in EMEAA  on a weekly basis. 

He's fast, silient but deadly!



*Sound Of Rain on 02 December 2010
spaceguy said:
jneul said:

this is what ps3 did to x360 in emeaa land


Number are great but I don't think vgchartz has a clue what ps3 is doing in EMEAA. sure it had a boost but what are the real numbers? 20,000 off, 50,000 off, 100,000 off. we will see when shipments come in.

I must ask why does the PS3 have to be undertracked every single week?



tombi123 on 02 December 2010
Seece said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
Seece said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
Mordred11 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:

look at just dance 1 numbers

Yeah,but what opponent did just dance have?Exactly,none.When people look at GT5's score,they will see that NFS:HP and Forza 3 have higher reviews,and what will they do,in the most probable case?Choose them over GT5.

That may not make a big difference,but it still has a small impact.

then look at just dance 2 numbers then :P dance central has a higher meta score and was still beaten

Stupid comparison, DC is on a new platform, by the end of this holiday it'll have a 5 million install base to sell to, Just Dance will have 16 times that.

I get your point, but I don´t think user base matters that much. A game can still sell well despite the user base. It has been proven before.

Depends on the franchise and the scale of the previous games numbers. GT4 ect were bought by a lot of casual PS2 users, that have more than likely moved onto Wii or 360. Very few will jump over for an 85 rated sim when they can get 2 90 plus rated ones on 360.

*looks at unbundled Forza sales* doesn't look like too many GT fans moved on to 360.



Seece on 02 December 2010
tombi123 said:
Seece said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
Seece said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
Mordred11 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:

look at just dance 1 numbers

Yeah,but what opponent did just dance have?Exactly,none.When people look at GT5's score,they will see that NFS:HP and Forza 3 have higher reviews,and what will they do,in the most probable case?Choose them over GT5.

That may not make a big difference,but it still has a small impact.

then look at just dance 2 numbers then :P dance central has a higher meta score and was still beaten

Stupid comparison, DC is on a new platform, by the end of this holiday it'll have a 5 million install base to sell to, Just Dance will have 16 times that.

I get your point, but I don´t think user base matters that much. A game can still sell well despite the user base. It has been proven before.

Depends on the franchise and the scale of the previous games numbers. GT4 ect were bought by a lot of casual PS2 users, that have more than likely moved onto Wii or 360. Very few will jump over for an 85 rated sim when they can get 2 90 plus rated ones on 360.

*looks at unbundled Forza sales* doesn't look like too many GT fans moved on to 360.

What are the unbundled Forza sales then?

Forza jumped from 1 mill last gen, to 4 mill this gen. Forza 3 at 3.3 mill with minimal bundling atm. You have no idea how many users it's stolen.