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Seece said:
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 31st Oct 2010 to 20th Nov 2010:

 

Console Wii PS3 X360
America
547,069
350,091
627,727

3 weeks on Americas so far this month, I wonder how NPD will pan out?

Americas.

Bleh.

I so wish VGC would split up the  Americas by country like they do with EMEAA



                            

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Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 31st Oct 2010 to 20th Nov 2010:

 

Console Wii PS3 X360
America
547,069
350,091
627,727

3 weeks on Americas so far this month, I wonder how NPD will pan out?

Americas.

Bleh.

I so wish VGC would split up the  Americas by country like they do with EMEAA

Yeah me too :/

It's gonna be strange to see Wii go from worst ever NPD and 3rd place to first!



 

Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 31st Oct 2010 to 20th Nov 2010:

 

Console Wii PS3 X360
America
547,069
350,091
627,727

3 weeks on Americas so far this month, I wonder how NPD will pan out?

Americas.

Bleh.

I so wish VGC would split up the  Americas by country like they do with EMEAA


Does VGC even get some of the South American countries? I've always had the feeling it is really Canada, US, and Mexico and thats about it.



The PS3 numbers in NA seems low to me, will wait for NPD since I believe it may be undertracked.



thx1139 said:
thismeintiel said:
ethomaz said:
Carl2291 said:

Am I the only person finding these numbers confusing?

No, me too.

Well, you have to remember 2 important things.  First, the holiday boost will always swing in Wii's favor, as it is not only the cheapest console, but it also appeals more to children (the group people mostly shop for during the holidays).  And second, this is the time of the year sales are harder to estimate, as things just go a little crazy.  There are almost always adjustments shortly after the holidays settle back to normal trends.  Personally, I think VGC maybe overestimating the boost for the Wii, while underestimating the boost for the PS3 and 360.I

Agree with this for the most part and it makes senses, but as I posted previously GCN although the family friendly console did not boost more during holidays then its competitors except when it dropped to a $50 right before the holdays to $99 while PS2 and Xbox stayed at $179.99.

By the time that had happened, the PS2 had pretty much cemented its spot as the market leader.  Plus, the PS2 appealed to everyone, old and young alike.  And the fact it doubled as a DVD player helped, as well.



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Also interesting to note it looks like about 25% of Wii software sold was packed in with hardware.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Good numbers...from what I saw on black friday...there are going to be some nice results, for this week in NA.



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Mr.Metralha said:
Mummelmann said:
axt113 said:
Mummelmann said:

Wii on par to win christmas easily, no shock there.


Weren't you the one saying that Kinect and Move would dethrone Wii?


No, quite wrong. I've said all along that the Wii would take the holiday season but will be in dire straits in 2011. For the record; I also maintained that Move and Kinect would crash and burn, I'm sure a lot of older members can vouch for that.

It seems you don't know my post history very well.

Are we trapped on an endless loop were the Wii will be doomed ?

This matter is discussed every year, the Wii was supposed to be in dire straits 6 months after its release. Then a year. Then 2 years definetelly. Then in 2009 it would totally colapse. In 2010 if a Wii HD doesn't come, Kinect and Move are going to kill the Wii. Now 2011.

 

The Wii was born to be doomed.


I have never said that Move and Kinect would destroy the Wii, the Wii was already in a sharp decline before Move and Kinect launched. Like I mentioned earlier, I had no faith in Move and Kinect as products and believed, rather foolishly in hindsight, that they would both flop. They obviously haven't.

Does the Wii have to be doomed to be outsold by one or more competitors? No, in fact; it has already won the generation in all likelyhood. The decline is real though and is likely to continue in 2011, all consoles decline over time and next year there is a real possibility that the Wii may actually be outsold for the calendar year (both HD consoles were pretty damn close before the holiday season set in this year). When I made my year end 2010 hardware prediction for the Wii it was both ridiculed and mocked in all ways and venues, having the nerve to suggest that the Wii would sell only 17 million in 2010 was unheard of, especially since this prediction was made in january when the Wii was in its best first quarter ever and way on top of the others. Guess what? It seems extremely likely that my 82 million 2010 year end prediction will come true and there's a lot of egg on a lot of faces in here because of it, even the analyst team on site seem to have missed this one hard, predicting a more or less flat curve from 2009.

Is the Wii doomed? By no means. Is it in a decline and may be outsold next year? Quite possible but I'm not daring enough to claim it as fact. The most famous and positive predictions in here have crashed spectacularly, such as those of John Lucas and, strangely enough, madmen such as good old Crazzyman have been more accurate so it is equally foolish to assume a blistering 2011 for the Wii. Let's not forget the opposite side of the "doomed" crew, the side that chanted an assured 45 million by year end 2008, and assured 50% marketshare by 2008 and, of not by then, then certainly shortly after or in its lifetime. A bare minimum of 70 million sold and a possible 75 million units sold by 2009 was also touted as fact around here and, as mentioned, predictions such as 17 million for 2010 was sheer heresy only months ago. It was also guaranteed to outsell the PS2 with no problems, all TheSource's and other users' analysis and projections showed as much.

Take mind, both negative and postive spin has been proven faulty through the years and to dismiss any hint of talk of a decline in Wii sales as mere "doom" talk is slightly defensive and not exaclty nuanced. No console is immune to a decline, simple as that.

PS: Please don't take things so personally and forgive the wall of text.



heruamon said:

Good numbers...from what I saw on black friday...there are going to be some nice results, for this week in NA.


share, please.



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Mr.Metralha said:
Mummelmann said:
axt113 said:
Mummelmann said:

Wii on par to win christmas easily, no shock there.


Weren't you the one saying that Kinect and Move would dethrone Wii?


No, quite wrong. I've said all along that the Wii would take the holiday season but will be in dire straits in 2011. For the record; I also maintained that Move and Kinect would crash and burn, I'm sure a lot of older members can vouch for that.

It seems you don't know my post history very well.

Are we trapped on an endless loop were the Wii will be doomed ?

This matter is discussed every year, the Wii was supposed to be in dire straits 6 months after its release. Then a year. Then 2 years definetelly. Then in 2009 it would totally colapse. In 2010 if a Wii HD doesn't come, Kinect and Move are going to kill the Wii. Now 2011.

 

The Wii was born to be doomed.


Dont' forget that Wii was the novelty only in 2006. Then 2007. 2008.  2009.  2010. A fleeting novelty.



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