So there're even more $$$ wasted? O_o

We still have to wait for the Holidays and then judge that based on the numbers for kinect and move.

You seriously think MS is spending 500 million in just this quarter?

MS is not Nintendo, 360 isnt even sold in the same amount of countries, and the original NYP article which the 500 million rumor came from said its JUST for kinect but it did not say it was just for this holiday season.

As I've said before, Kinect and Move are not going to sell, at least in terms of moving hardware. The reason for it is not prices, but the fact that most of their libraries seem to be filled with "birdmen" games; that is, games that are made under the false assumption that casual gamers/expanded audience are stupid gamers, and thus like dumbed down poor quality games. They are games that simply try to make the wings rather than studying how to fly. This strategy didn't work with third parties on the Wii, and it certainly won't work on a motion sensing add on for the HD consoles.

They look at the cutesy Wii games that sold massive amounts and associate this with watered down, poor quality, etc, so they make games that reflect this style, rather than examining the true essence that made these games so successful.

Then why are their console sales increasing?

Normal holiday boosts, Black Ops?

Move has already proven back in September that it hasn't had an affect on PS3 sales, except maybe a tiny one in Europe. And I really don't think Kinect is doing as much as people think for the 360. In other words, if Kinect never existed, I still think 360 would be getting similar sales (maybe a bit lower) simply off the strength of Black Ops and the holiday boost.

Pretty much this.

@Kowenicki do you have a link to the source of those numbers?

The jump from kinect was noticable. I would doubt that xbox would be doing anywhere near this good with out it.

However I did see a sh=t ton of them at wal-mart for black friday.

I think post-holiday sales will be the real story-teller of whether Move and Kinect are the next big thing or just too late for the party.

Wii initially sold to Nintendo-fans (Zelda!) and gamers interested in the motion controls, then spread to casuals after they'd gotten to play it over the holidays.   Wiis remained sold out all year (2007).  So if Move and Kinect are still selling strong post-Christmas it'll bode very well for them.   I expect them to be a one-season wonder though unless we see something truly new and not just a lot of Wii-too games.