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Kasz216 said:

Heck, even North Korea believes the sub was hit by a torpedo!

They just want to offer a different torpedo to try and prove it wasn't theirs.

Ignoring the fact that we already have north korean torpedos.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html

"The South took the case to the UN Security Council back in June. The international body condemned the deadly attack, but refused to directly blame the North for the tragedy that left 46 sailors dead in late March"

Why would they not directly blame the North Koreans? Because they might piss off the North even more?



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Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:

Heck, even North Korea believes the sub was hit by a torpedo!

They just want to offer a different torpedo to try and prove it wasn't theirs.

Ignoring the fact that we already have north korean torpedos.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html

"The South took the case to the UN Security Council back in June. The international body condemned the deadly attack, but refused to directly blame the North for the tragedy that left 46 sailors dead in late March"

Why would they not directly blame the North Koreans? Because they might piss off the North even more?

No.  Because the Chinese hold a veto on the Security council.

China does not want North and South Korea to fight... because that means tons of refugees will leave North Korea into China.

You've basically bought into Chinese propaganda that was created because they didn't want South Korea to retaliate because they didn't want the economic burden of refugees.

 

See how Egypt completely sells out Palestine for an example.


I mean, can you even come up with  a plausable other culprit?   Even one?



Lostplanet22 said:

That would be the same if you need to go to jail because someone is murdered with an weapon built in the USA..and considering you are the only American living in that street you must have done it;.


C'mon. It's not America here in question, so don't mess terms. The North is known not only to be "living in that street" but also practicing the knife fighting techniques.

Anyways, any legitimate reason to destroy Commies is fine with me. If them do not want to be blamed for such sort of things, they should have stopped producing weapons and arming themselves, that's really simple.



Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:

The point is also that ever since the Chinese revealed that North Korea wasn't involved, South Korea became silent about the situation until the report was released.

 

Also whether the Chinese are right about a US Mine sinking the Ship isn't the point. Point is the North Korean didn't sink the ship.

 


Again, i've yet to see where they "reveal they weren't involved".

You've literally provided no proof.

The attempts at trying to disprove it have actually greatly contradicted each other.

The "struck a reef" arguement holds no weight.

What reason does North Korea have then for firing a Torpedo at a South Korean ship? What makes that so believable?

Yeah, it's not like North Korea would ever attack South Korea.  I don't know what could ever give me the idea that they would... oh wait, the fact that they have before... and have after.... what with that being what this thread is about.  North Korea having just attacked south Korea.

Even NORTH KOREA admits it was a torpedo attack.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html


So if not North Korea... who did sink their ship with a torpedo that everyone INCLUDING NORTH KOREA believes was fired?

http://www.japanfocus.org/-Tanaka-Sakai/3361

Read the Comments as well.

Involves hypothesizing and yes I cannot provide concrete proof that the North weren't involved however does not mean North Korea actually sunk the ship.

 



Yeah China is probably the best friend of North Korea...but that does not say much because the friendship and the relations between South Korea and China are way better...An war would not benefit anything for China..  ” War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left”



 

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Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:

The point is also that ever since the Chinese revealed that North Korea wasn't involved, South Korea became silent about the situation until the report was released.

 

Also whether the Chinese are right about a US Mine sinking the Ship isn't the point. Point is the North Korean didn't sink the ship.

 


Again, i've yet to see where they "reveal they weren't involved".

You've literally provided no proof.

The attempts at trying to disprove it have actually greatly contradicted each other.

The "struck a reef" arguement holds no weight.

What reason does North Korea have then for firing a Torpedo at a South Korean ship? What makes that so believable?

Yeah, it's not like North Korea would ever attack South Korea.  I don't know what could ever give me the idea that they would... oh wait, the fact that they have before... and have after.... what with that being what this thread is about.  North Korea having just attacked south Korea.

Even NORTH KOREA admits it was a torpedo attack.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html


So if not North Korea... who did sink their ship with a torpedo that everyone INCLUDING NORTH KOREA believes was fired?

http://www.japanfocus.org/-Tanaka-Sakai/3361

Read the Comments as well.

Involves hypothesizing and yes I cannot provide concrete proof that the North weren't involved however does not mean North Korea actually sunk the ship.

So... you want me to read the comments section?

Or the article that's both suggesting it was a war games accident, yet somehow they were hiding from north korea to shink the ship and in fact attack North Korean ships? (Which the US wouldn't do....)

I mean, is it any suprise such a theory was conceived by a novelist?

They don't actually use torpedo's in war games you know.  Not even "duds".

 

The only real suggestion would be that the US intentionally sunk the sub.


The obvious question being... "Why the hell would they do that?"

The obvious answer being... "There is none, because it does the exact opposite of what the US wants."

The US doesn't want a war to happen anymore then China.  The only difference is china has more reason to lie.

I mean, just admit it.  You were wrong.



Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:

Heck, even North Korea believes the sub was hit by a torpedo!

They just want to offer a different torpedo to try and prove it wasn't theirs.

Ignoring the fact that we already have north korean torpedos.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html

"The South took the case to the UN Security Council back in June. The international body condemned the deadly attack, but refused to directly blame the North for the tragedy that left 46 sailors dead in late March"

Why would they not directly blame the North Koreans? Because they might piss off the North even more?

No.  Because the Chinese hold a veto on the Security council.

China does not want North and South Korea to fight... because that means tons of refugees will leave North Korea into China.

You've basically bought into Chinese propaganda that was created because they didn't want South Korea to retaliate because they didn't want the economic burden of refugees.

 

See how Egypt completely sells out Palestine for an example.


I mean, can you even come up with  a plausable other culprit?   Even one?

Exactly and South Korea's Lee got pissed about it because the UN wouldn't outright blame North Korea and that fact that the Chinese were siding with North Korea for obvious reasons.

The only alternative is really America. But once again there's no concrete proof to that and the only thing that leads to this is the hypothesizing from the latest link I gave you.

 

 



Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:

Heck, even North Korea believes the sub was hit by a torpedo!

They just want to offer a different torpedo to try and prove it wasn't theirs.

Ignoring the fact that we already have north korean torpedos.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html

"The South took the case to the UN Security Council back in June. The international body condemned the deadly attack, but refused to directly blame the North for the tragedy that left 46 sailors dead in late March"

Why would they not directly blame the North Koreans? Because they might piss off the North even more?

No.  Because the Chinese hold a veto on the Security council.

China does not want North and South Korea to fight... because that means tons of refugees will leave North Korea into China.

You've basically bought into Chinese propaganda that was created because they didn't want South Korea to retaliate because they didn't want the economic burden of refugees.

 

See how Egypt completely sells out Palestine for an example.


I mean, can you even come up with  a plausable other culprit?   Even one?

Exactly and South Korea's Lee got pissed about it because the UN wouldn't outright blame North Korea and that fact that the Chinese were siding with North Korea for obvious reasons.

The only alternative is really America. But once again there's no concrete proof to that and the only thing that leads to this is the hypothesizing from the latest link I gave you.

 

 

You do realize the link you posted last actually suggests 9/11 was an inside job.  This is the level you've sunken too.

The US has about as much reason to blow up a South Korean sub as China does.



MDMAniac said:
Lostplanet22 said:

That would be the same if you need to go to jail because someone is murdered with an weapon built in the USA..and considering you are the only American living in that street you must have done it;.


C'mon. It's not America here in question, so don't mess terms. The North is known not only to be "living in that street" but also practicing the knife fighting techniques.

Anyways, any legitimate reason to destroy Commies is fine with me. If them do not want to be blamed for such sort of things, they should have stopped producing weapons and arming themselves, that's really simple.


Any legitimate reason to destroy Capitalists is fine with me. If them do not want to be blamed for such sort of things, they should have stopped producing weapons, arming themselves, blaming countries of having mass destructive weapons and invading them etc.....Preached by 10.000 of people to millions in name of an religion, in name of communism...


Don't low yourself to their level...



 

Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:
Kasz216 said:
Cross-X said:

The point is also that ever since the Chinese revealed that North Korea wasn't involved, South Korea became silent about the situation until the report was released.

 

Also whether the Chinese are right about a US Mine sinking the Ship isn't the point. Point is the North Korean didn't sink the ship.

 


Again, i've yet to see where they "reveal they weren't involved".

You've literally provided no proof.

The attempts at trying to disprove it have actually greatly contradicted each other.

The "struck a reef" arguement holds no weight.

What reason does North Korea have then for firing a Torpedo at a South Korean ship? What makes that so believable?

Yeah, it's not like North Korea would ever attack South Korea.  I don't know what could ever give me the idea that they would... oh wait, the fact that they have before... and have after.... what with that being what this thread is about.  North Korea having just attacked south Korea.

Even NORTH KOREA admits it was a torpedo attack.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/149355.html


So if not North Korea... who did sink their ship with a torpedo that everyone INCLUDING NORTH KOREA believes was fired?

http://www.japanfocus.org/-Tanaka-Sakai/3361

Read the Comments as well.

Involves hypothesizing and yes I cannot provide concrete proof that the North weren't involved however does not mean North Korea actually sunk the ship.

So... you want me to read the comments section?

Or the article that's both suggesting it was a war games accident, yet somehow they were hiding from north korea to shink the ship and in fact attack North Korean ships? (Which the US wouldn't do....)

I mean, is it any suprise such a theory was conceived by a novelist?

They don't actually use torpedo's in war games you know.  Not even "duds".

 

The only real suggestion would be that the US intentionally sunk the sub.


The obvious question being... "Why the hell would they do that?"

The obvious answer being... "There is none, because it does the exact opposite of what the US wants."

The US doesn't want a war to happen anymore then China.  The only difference is china has more reason to lie.

I mean, just admit it.  You were wrong.

I can admit I'm wrong and I will. Not need to further discuss such matter. You proved your point and I tried but didn't have the concrete proof to back up other than hyphothesis' including myself.