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melbye said:
DarthVolod said:
melbye said:

Humanity deserves to die. What good things did we ever do for this planet?


This is exactly the kind of mentality that groups like PETA and environmentalists are creating, a generation of misanthropy. Even if you were correct in stating that humanity deserves to "die" for not saving the planet you are ignoring the efforts of countless animal rights/protection groups and the work of environmentalists around the world ... I guess human life has no value to you even when it is pushing your agenda? Also, I was not aware that the meaning of human life was to protect the planet and nature. Please enlighten me on how you came to this conclusion (or rather what documentary or television station you absorbed it from without questioning). 

On that subject, if preservation is the objective goal of human life as you accept then can you please tell me why this is so? What possible benefit is there to humanity if humans sacrificed themself for the sake of the planet? Whos is to benefit and for what purpose? The "planet" is a big chunk of mostly inatimate matter. Are you suggesting that human beings should lay down (with no explanation as to why they should do so) their lives to save a giant rock? Besides, isn't your statement a bit self contradictory? Humans arose on this planet and we are just as much a part of the natural world as any tiger. By hindering human progress and even going so far as to say they should all "die" aren't you, in effect, suggesting that we must destroy nature in order to preserve nature?

Another thing that makes me so suspect of bleeding hearts animal rights activists is the fact that they NEVER advocate the preservation of any species that one would define as "ugly." I never see campaigns advocating the preservation of bees (who do far more for us than tigers ever could) or for any other species that one could not put on a postcard. It is always the cute species like whales, dolphins, tigers, ect. ect. Just seems so hypocritical to me.


As a student of history i have read 10000 years of it and i must say humanity has issues, it has nothing to do with PETA

 

Please describe these "issues." You seemed to suggest that humanity deserved to die in your original post because of its treatment of animals (that is the topic afterall). I countered by explaining how absurd this premise is, and I put some of the blame on groups like PETA for spreading such absurd ideas on otherwise kind people who like animals. Was there some other reason you called for humanity's extinction in your post that I was magically supposed to understand from your two sentence post?



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Tanstalas said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Beuli2 said:

It is time to get my last tiger barbecue ready.


LMAO

In all seriousness though this is terrible news. Tigers are like the Dons of the big cat world, they're so cool and they've been around for thousands of years. I can't believe they're just about to disappear. What animal will Sagat rename his move list after now?

Liger Uppercut!

If Street Fighter outdoes the tigers, nobody will ever understand what kinda uppercut is Sagat yelling about... funny... though mostly sad.



Frankly, I don't care if every wild animal dies. They eat people for crying out loud!

P.S. I don't like man eating water animals either.



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That's why we need to fund our zoos.

 

Personally, i'd love to protect these animals... but when they are worth so much money poached AND they live in poor countries where you can't make a living...

 

What can be done to stop them?

It's like a case of King Richards Forrest.  Except everybody is siding with King Richard.

Outside of sending armed guards to actually guard them, I see no solution.



Also, as for "People never doing anything good for the earth."

My question is...

What does the Earth care?   What makes a planet like Earth "better" or "happier" then a planet like Mars?

Only one thing.  The personification of people that planets with  life are better and happier then planets without life.

 

People are just the naturarl evolution... of evolution.

A race so evolved that instead of adapting to it's surroundings, it adapts it's surroundings to it. 



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Kasz216 said:

That's why we need to fund our zoos.

 

Personally, i'd love to protect these animals... but when they are worth so much money poached AND they live in poor countries where you can't make a living...

 

What can be done to stop them?

It's like a case of King Richards Forrest.  Except everybody is siding with King Richard.

Outside of sending armed guards to actually guard them, I see no solution.

If you could provide someone with a steady job guarding a tiger as opposed to killing that tiger, selling it once, then having to go kill another, the economics of that sit in favor of guarding, though that's purely a matter of funding and getting the guys with guns to realize a stable job in wildlife protection is worth more in the long run than work as a poacher



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Its time to reduce the worlds human population by 4 billion or so because we are destroying all other life, as if we are the only ones that matter. I call for forced sterilization and I'm only 1/2 joking maybe not at all.



Mankind needs to not beat itself up so much.  You can only do so much about the people who just don't care about animals (they will hunt the rare and exotic, treat them poorly, ect.), and there have been plenty of success stories.  Besides, it wouldn't be the end of the world if it went extinct in the wild, it will still exist in captivity as a reminder of what once was.  Animals went extinct before humans had world-wide influence.

In the end, they're still just animals.  We try to help them from going extinct because they can't help themselves, and as our responsibility as fellow inhabitants of this planet, and in exchange we eat, hunt, and keep them as pets.  Sounds fair enough to me, especially since animals hunt and eat without protecting the welfare of other species.



chocoloco said:

Its time to reduce the worlds human population by 4 billion or so because we are destroying all other life, as if we are the only ones that matter. I call for forced sterilization and I'm only 1/2 joking maybe not at all.


The problem with that would be it would be extremtly classist.  Since to have any effect the people you'd need to sterlize would be the poor... and poor countries.

Afterall the biggest problems of population growth now comes from poor countries... and poorer families.

 

There is always also the option of cutting off foreign aid.  Of course, that would cause a bunch of people to die.  There is a certain logic in foreign aid only really contributing to those countries problems long run as it artificially inflates their populations buuuut.... I mean, the other option is just letting people die.



Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:

That's why we need to fund our zoos.

 

Personally, i'd love to protect these animals... but when they are worth so much money poached AND they live in poor countries where you can't make a living...

 

What can be done to stop them?

It's like a case of King Richards Forrest.  Except everybody is siding with King Richard.

Outside of sending armed guards to actually guard them, I see no solution.

If you could provide someone with a steady job guarding a tiger as opposed to killing that tiger, selling it once, then having to go kill another, the economics of that sit in favor of guarding, though that's purely a matter of funding and getting the guys with guns to realize a stable job in wildlife protection is worth more in the long run than work as a poacher

Convincing them could be tough, and are there enough jobs for everybody?  We can't even create enough jobs in the US.  I feel like poachers probably aren't like just a small minority, but a large group of people who do it when they can wander into it.