Final-Fan said:
radishhead said: In that post, you're basically stating that you think I'm town. "least damaging way to waste a day on a mislynch" "I won't regret this lynch even if he flips town" "he, a townie, is dead" "blaming the town for lynching someone who acts like mafia"
To me, it looks like you're trying to both get me lynched, yet stay as far away from it as possible. Obviously, if you're mafia, you'd know that I'm town, so this seems like the ideal method of drawing suspicion form yourself if a lynch were to occur.
Edit: This post was aimed at FF |
Those quotes are me speaking hypothetically.
I am not trying to "stay away" from your lynch; I have been one of the most vocal if not THE most vocal advocate of your death.
I just think that it is best for the town that you die, and that it will not be that bad for the town even if you flip town. Your behavior will simply be a magnet for suspicion that distracts from other scum hunting.
Dammit radish, you just don't seem to even understand that there is anything wrong with what you did. Even now, you can't admit it, can you?
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I honestly don't see much wrong with how I've played this game - if you think about it, the only reason that I've drawn any suspicion at all is because I stated that I don't do 1st day lynches, but later admitting that I do in the right circumstances. You're almost hiding behind the point that I'm playing badly, but it's only really the way that people have interpreted the things that I've said that have turned the situation around. Forcing it into people's heads that I've been playing badly this round, when I haven't done much wrong at all, and you're stopping people from taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. To me, that doesn't seem worth all the attention that I've been receiving. I suppose that it is probably the most important contradiction that's appeared in the game so far, but that's not saying much considering that it's only the first day of the round.
On your point about the Mafia acting like mafia, I think it's an interesting point, with an almost philosophical tint to it. When all the players in a mafia game get too good, it becomes so that only the town can appear as the Mafia. The mafia know that they have to appear town, and their only goal is to do that, rather than the town who have a goal of both appearing like town and finding the mafia. I say "appearing like town", because if you think about it, even the players who are townies have to get into the mentality of a townie. Following the same clichés and working together. Those who stand out get pounced on quickly, even if they're trying to do something for the team. Finding the right balance between acting like town and finding the mafia is difficult, and sometimes the more experienced players can look more like town than the town themselves! It's definitely interesting stuff.
But that's just me - sometimes I feel like I'm in a situation where I can't seem to find the right thing to say. When I'm looking at a statement that's a response to something that I've said, I think to myself, "somewhere, in the dictionary of words and the rules of grammar, there is a response that will both convey the point that I'm trying to make, and satisfy the interrogator so that he won't ask me any more questions for a short while" - unfortunately, I can never seem to find the right selection of words. Sometimes I decide that a strong opinion is the best way forward, because the other players will think "what a leader! We should listen to what he has to say", but unfortunately, choosing this route can be risky, because should a contradication be found - your life as a townie is as good as over. This one has happened to me in this game as well as a couple of others. You could also take the vague and mysterious approach - this one is normally received as "scummy" behaviour, but I did try this in the Final Fantasy themed game (it didn't work brilliantly, but it kept the game interesting, to say the least). Finally, you could just say nothing at all. This is the only one that I haven't tried yet in all my games of Mafia, and I'm often told by other players that I have to learn when to say nothing at all. I don't believe that there is ever a situation in mafia where can can get away with not responding to a question, or a statement that someone has thought up following your actions in a game. I consider it my main weakness when playing Mafia, and, with all gameplay weaknesses, I'm trying to get better at doing it :)