I guess I'm the only one who watches Pach Attack at Gametraliers. It's on one of the episodes.

And in one of those episodes Pachter expected Ninty to do 3DS without glasses, BEFORE it was rumored or revealed by Ninty?

That would be HUGE and i would be sorry for every word i wrote.

Just after Ninty first revealed the 3DS at their financial paper or whatever. We knew the name, but that was pratically it. And I'm pretty sure the third party talk was before the 3DS releasing, if I remember correctly he was talking how Ninty would keep interest of gamers next gen without the motion innovation factor.

He's not perfect, but quite decent IMO.

Found it! Thank you!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-114-pach-attack/65125

Perhaps i'm wrong, but he just explains how 3DS could work. He is not the dump guy i thought, but everything he did in that episode was to describe how 3D without glasses could work. And that wasn't news to me, either.

Nevertheless, you're right. He's not just the WiiHD dumpass i thought he is.

"... and yes i think the slim SKU is coming out and no i don't think you can buy it as a standalone (without Natal or Kinect) or cheaper than 299$ until next year..."  (same episode)

Well, possibly with Kinect, but for Move, the bundles are packed in for free aren't they?

you also have console move bundle for 400 I think

I think Move vs Kinect will be the same as 360 vs PS3. In Americas Kinect will be over Move by a huge margin. In EMEAA it'll be very close. I think in EMEAA Move will come out just ahead, up to January mostly because of the longer time on market. In Japan Move>Kinect but both will sell low numbers so it won't have a material effect on the WW difference.

Nett result will be Kinect>Move.

Also it's the ongoing debate about Move. I think by '3 million Moves' Pachter is meaning install base rather than number of Move controllers sold. Given Sony were at 2.5 million Move products (starter packs Move controllers) shipped by early Nov, with reports of low stock numbers in some locations, I can't see Sony only shipping another 500K Move products over the next 1.5 months. I think more likely at least another 2 million Move products shipped over that time. Possibly more if the average number of Move controllers per household is >1.5.

He means 3M units on top of those already sold.

His kinect number is a bit too high, it'll probably sell about 4.7million given Microsoft is expecting to ship 5 million units, as for Move -- its going to sell ALOT more than 3 million units. SONY confirmed weeks ago that they had shipped over 2.5 million units and were increasing production, i wouldn't be surprised to see SONY ship at least 5 million units as well- possibly more with move sales around 4.0 to 4.5 million by the end of the year. 

Here is my rough takedown on the situation (all numbers could be off by plus/minus 20%):

A)  Shipments (may be sold to resellers or partially shipped to warehouses to prepare for XMas rush)

Initial Move shipments were 1.5mio units Europe and 1mio units America. These units were shipped by normal ways (sea freight 4 weeks min.) and manufactured on existing lines during summer. Assuming a typical four month manufacturing period, this means about 150k units were manufactured every week. Manufacturing continued at this pace until end of September when Sony increased manufacturing to react to unexpected higher demand, so we have 6 weeks @150k manufactured until October. End of October, Sony again increased manufacturing capacity as they still see higher demand than expected. So we have:

1. Initial shipments: 16 weeks @150k = 2.5 mio units

2. shipments until first manufacturing increase: 6 weeks @150k = 0.9mio units

3. shipments with increased capacity in October 4 weeks @200k = 0.8mio units

4. shipments at full manufacturing capactity until end of year: 8 weeks @ 250k = 2.0 mio units

Total shipped units by end of year = 6.2 mio units

B) What is a move unit?

Basically a move unit can be a Starter pack, a bundle, a camera, a dildo or a wand. As Sony knew what software would be available on launch, Move units were initially divided into three groups: a) Starter packs, b) dildos and c) wands. Observations and reports from various European countries strongly hint that initial move units consisted of:

75-80% (Bundles and Starter packs)

15-20% Dildos

5% Wands

This is of course an expected and logical breakdown as none of the initial software required more than a dildo to function with. As by mid-November, shops in Europe have seen about three or four small resupply shipments of various contents, mostly Starter packs and dildos (even some cameras). The breakdown also explains why the "Everyone bought another 1-2-3 dildos" line is patently false because stock simply didn't exist for that to happen.

C) Does it sell (from a European standpoint)?

This is the part most people seem to fight over. We have three sources. Sony tells us they still have problems resupplying. Uebermoron Pachter tells us that Move isn't really selling. Shops show and tell us that it is difficult to get single items like dildos and wands, while Starter packs and Software are readily available, in sometimes limited qunatities. Of those three sources, we can easily discredit Uebermoron Pachter as unreliable (read his latest babblings about only 400'000 units sold in Americas - he contradicts himself at least three times within a few sentences). Reports from various European countries show that the initial shipments are sold through >90% by mid-November. No data is available from Asia, curiously.