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Smeags on 10 November 2010
Khuutra said:

Empire Strikes back took the universe established in Star Wars and slapped us across the face with it, showed us the side of it that we had not considered in our fantastical musings. It was a movie full of betrayal, despair, strife, defeat, and the real darkness of the human heart held up like an all-consuming negative flame. Even the best and most uplifting moments in the movie (the times spent with Yoda) were surrounded and colored by darkness, by a sense that the galaxy, when you got down to it, was still a dirty and dangerous place where good people could do terrible things.

I could write something longer, more substantial, but I won't. It's not something I have the time to do justice to.

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Mr Khan on 10 November 2010

9/10

This movie corrected the flaws of the first, given that it has scale and action and special effects that hold up even today, while retaining everything that was good about the original, mostly down to believable characters and an epic story.

I would note Admiral Piett, whose little side-story of his own made for something for the audience to cheer for, how he got shat on by Admiral Ozzl (sp?), but then Ozzl gets what's coming to him, and Piett manages to live despite the Falcon getting away (and apparently i wasn't the only one. Piett was given a role in RotJ due to fan demand, supposedly)

I didn't like Lando Calrissian's role. The entire betrayal thing just didn't sit right with me, but that could very well be because i was exposed to Return of the Jedi first

I have a feeling i'm gonna be fighting with some people come RotJ time. The non-believers who aren't aware of the real top Star Wars film.



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badgenome on 10 November 2010

10/10



badgenome on 10 November 2010
Mr Khan said:

I have a feeling i'm gonna be fighting with some people come RotJ time. The non-believers who aren't aware of the real top Star Wars film.

I can't wait to see you try and justify the Ewoks!



Khuutra on 10 November 2010
Mr Khan said:

I have a feeling i'm gonna be fighting with some people come RotJ time. The non-believers who aren't aware of the real top Star Wars film.

Something something slave Leia bikini something something ewoks something something Jabba as a giant phallus something something



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Mr Khan on 10 November 2010
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

I have a feeling i'm gonna be fighting with some people come RotJ time. The non-believers who aren't aware of the real top Star Wars film.

I can't wait to see you try and justify the Ewoks!

Not hard, actually. The Ewoks were what Jar Jar Binks should have been: minimalist comic relief. The grand difference between the Ewoks and Binks was that, not knowing what they were saying, they were reduced to pure physical comedy on a point, much like what has made R2D2 so endearing across all 6 films. Binks' antics were funny, but because he never shut the hell up, his experience came off as very grating overall.

In the case of the Ewoks it was also more inspiring to see their primitive technology overcome the mechanical might of the Empire, again to compare it to the Gungans who just had "different" technology that wasn't entirely primitive

If Binks had been, for all intents and purposes, "silent" like the Ewoks and Chewbacca, i would bet that Phantom Menace would get 50% less hate than it does



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Kasz216 on 10 November 2010
Khuutra said:

Empire Strikes back took the universe established in Star Wars and slapped us across the face with it, showed us the side of it that we had not considered in our fantastical musings. It was a movie full of betrayal, despair, strife, defeat, and the real darkness of the human heart held up like an all-consuming negative flame. Even the best and most uplifting moments in the movie (the times spent with Yoda) were surrounded and colored by darkness, by a sense that the galaxy, when you got down to it, was still a dirty and dangerous place where good people could do terrible things.

I could write something longer, more substantial, but I won't. It's not something I have the time to do justice to.


That's more or less the way I'd put it.

10/10.


For those that don't know (probably not many as it's a common told story bu there are some young people) 

the original script called for Han to say I love you as well.

Harrison Ford just improvised the "I Know" on set...

Probably my favorite part of the movie.

 

This movie, unlike most others, actually establishes the villians as a real and present threat, and even possible suggests they could win.

 

To make a silly comparison.   It's like Kid's cartoon's... the BEST episodes are pretty much always the 2-3 parters where the villians actually win and rule for a while setting the heros to the winds before they come back and win.



c03n3nj0 on 10 November 2010

10/10

My favorite star wars movie. 

One of the best films out there. Just epic. 



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Thechalkblock on 10 November 2010

10/10

I don't feel the need to explain myself.



Kasz216 on 10 November 2010
Mr Khan said:
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

I have a feeling i'm gonna be fighting with some people come RotJ time. The non-believers who aren't aware of the real top Star Wars film.

I can't wait to see you try and justify the Ewoks!

Not hard, actually. The Ewoks were what Jar Jar Binks should have been: minimalist comic relief. The grand difference between the Ewoks and Binks was that, not knowing what they were saying, they were reduced to pure physical comedy on a point, much like what has made R2D2 so endearing across all 6 films. Binks' antics were funny, but because he never shut the hell up, his experience came off as very grating overall.

In the case of the Ewoks it was also more inspiring to see their primitive technology overcome the mechanical might of the Empire, again to compare it to the Gungans who just had "different" technology that wasn't entirely primitive

If Binks had been, for all intents and purposes, "silent" like the Ewoks and Chewbacca, i would bet that Phantom Menace would get 50% less hate than it does


See, your first paragraph defeats the second paragraph though.


The all powerful empire, was being defeated by wooden bows and arrows... and trees.

Like... not distracting, or getting in a good shot here or there.

They were dominating the empire.

I think they killed maybe 1 ewok.

 

That and I kinda think they lost their "meaning" at the ending with Luke, but that's for the next thread.