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Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:

I still suspect you.

All right. Humor me: nobody else is active at the moment. Why do you suspect me?

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

...Why is suggesting we hang Kamal suspicious?

Not at all......but Kamal turning up as mafia is.



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nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

...Why is suggesting we hang Kamal suspicious?

Not at all......but Kamal turning up as mafia is.

So you're saying that me being a good guesser (followed by a good hammerer when he made the "really guys?" defense) is inherently suspicious?

I'm suspicious for hanging Mafia? What part of that makes sense?



Kantor said:
nen-suer said:

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

1) Khuutra is always like that.

2) Why would he propose lynching a fellow mafioso? That makes no sense whatsoever.

3) Explainable in many ways.

Khuutra being innocent is the second most certain I am in the innocence of any living player not including myself.

2- Mafia members do that alot to make them self look trust worthy

3- Now your making me less suspicious of khuutra and more suspicious of you.



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nen-suer said:
Kantor said:
nen-suer said:

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

1) Khuutra is always like that.

2) Why would he propose lynching a fellow mafioso? That makes no sense whatsoever.

3) Explainable in many ways.

Khuutra being innocent is the second most certain I am in the innocence of any living player not including myself.

2- Mafia members do that alot to make them self look trust worthy

3- Now your making me less suspicious of khuutra and more suspicious of you.

People suspecting me, I can live with, I guess. Khuutra is more important to the town than I. Though it would be better if they didn't, because suspecting a townie is never a good idea.

You're giving me a negative vibe, nen.

HoS: nen-suer.



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Khuutra said:

It works like this.

We have four generally confirmed townies. It's not absolute, but we can pretend. I can say with absolute certainty that Homer and Metal_Gear are town. For the sake of this conversation let's pretend you and I are.

Five unconfirmed townies sit on the other side.

We have a vigilante. We can kill two unconfirmeds per day, while the Mafia can only kill one confirmed per day.

In addition to this, the cop could - in theory - eliminate one more suspect per day, either confirming them as Mafia or Town. Homer's power is less useful in this situation, so I'm not going to put it down as an elimination sort of thing.

We are on Day 3. By Day 4, there will be 2 unconfirmed townies left and 3 (more or less) confirmed. It doesn't matter WHAT the Mafia does at that point, they've lost. They can kill the vig or the cop but not both, and at that point it won't matter. Game over, Mafia. We win by the end of Day 4 or the dawn of Day 5, no questions asked.

We are, thanks to rampant modkilling, in the endgame. It could be close, but only if we play this very, very stupidly.

I'm thinking that all townies with power roles should reveal themselves, BUT NOT UNTIL I SAY SO. Is anyone against this?

You mentioned a hierarchy of townies whom you "want to see hanging" or "want to strangle" or some such thing.

The original list was noname2200, dtewi and myself (Kantor)

You then realised (intelligently) that you didn't want to strangle me at all.

nen-suer at some point was added to your suspicion list.

Could I ask why those three are more suspicious than the others?

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On the subject of power roles, I think we should keep the same policy as before - if you discover something important, reveal it. But "important" can be used more loosely here. Definitely if you find out that somebody is guilty. Perhaps if you realise a high-level suspect is innocent.



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nen-suer said:
Kantor said:
nen-suer said:

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

1) Khuutra is always like that.

2) Why would he propose lynching a fellow mafioso? That makes no sense whatsoever.

3) Explainable in many ways.

Khuutra being innocent is the second most certain I am in the innocence of any living player not including myself.

2- Mafia members do that alot to make them self look trust worthy

3- Now your making me less suspicious of khuutra and more suspicious of you.

Suggesting that Khuutra just decided he wanted to kill a fellow scum is stupid. You're grasping at straws - no, scratch that... you're clutching at straws for dear life.

HoS: You for this.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
nen-suer said:

2- Mafia members do that alot to make them self look trust worthy

3- Now your making me less suspicious of khuutra and more suspicious of you.

Suggesting that Khuutra just decided he wanted to kill a fellow scum is stupid. You're grasping at straws - no, scratch that... you're clutching at straws for dear life.

HoS: You for this.

WTH is this crap ?

I'm not in danger of being lynched,  so......no I'm not "grasping" for dear life.

I sometimes wonder if you read 1 post per page and guess what the situation is.



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Kantor said:

You mentioned a hierarchy of townies whom you "want to see hanging" or "want to strangle" or some such thing.

The original list was noname2200, dtewi and myself (Kantor)

You then realised (intelligently) that you didn't want to strangle me at all.

nen-suer at some point was added to your suspicion list.

Could I ask why those three are more suspicious than the others?

____________________________________

On the subject of power roles, I think we should keep the same policy as before - if you discover something important, reveal it. But "important" can be used more loosely here. Definitely if you find out that somebody is guilty. Perhaps if you realise a high-level suspect is innocent.

All right, that's fine. I do kind of want to know what character you are, though. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out. Don't tell me if you don't feel up to it, of course; pretty sure I know your role as-is, based on mine.

Noname is not particularly suspicious in that his behavior simply isn't there to afford suspicion. It's more an acknowledgment that he's potentially Mafia, he's kind of dead weight at the moment, and I don't think it would hurt his feelings for us to murder him.

Dtewi just gives me a bad itch in the back of the head. Suspicio based on nothing concrete, but it's there.

Nen, though

Nen is problematic in his behavior, his attitudes, and his defenses

I'm tempted to shift the trian over to nen



nen-suer said:
dtewi said:
nen-suer said:

2- Mafia members do that alot to make them self look trust worthy

3- Now your making me less suspicious of khuutra and more suspicious of you.

Suggesting that Khuutra just decided he wanted to kill a fellow scum is stupid. You're grasping at straws - no, scratch that... you're clutching at straws for dear life.

HoS: You for this.

WTH is this crap ?

I'm not in danger of being lynched,  so......no I'm not "grasping" for dear life.

I sometimes wonder if you read 1 post per page and guess what the situation is.

I wasn't comparing you to your situation. I was comparing you to how fervently and absurdly you're grasping at said straws.

Insults are not at all conducive to your trustworthiness.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Khuutra said:
Kantor said:

You mentioned a hierarchy of townies whom you "want to see hanging" or "want to strangle" or some such thing.

The original list was noname2200, dtewi and myself (Kantor)

You then realised (intelligently) that you didn't want to strangle me at all.

nen-suer at some point was added to your suspicion list.

Could I ask why those three are more suspicious than the others?

____________________________________

On the subject of power roles, I think we should keep the same policy as before - if you discover something important, reveal it. But "important" can be used more loosely here. Definitely if you find out that somebody is guilty. Perhaps if you realise a high-level suspect is innocent.

Nen is problematic in his behavior, his attitudes, and his defenses

I'm tempted to shift the trian over to nen

Defense ? No one told me i was being accused of being scum?
Anyways i already role claimed so i don't think i have anything to add even if i was accused.



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