darthdevidem01 said:
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I...don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Either way, that face beckons to my fist. 
Rockstar: Announce Bully 2 already and make gamers proud!
Kojima: Come out with Project S already!
darthdevidem01 said:
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I...don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Either way, that face beckons to my fist. 
Rockstar: Announce Bully 2 already and make gamers proud!
Kojima: Come out with Project S already!
As others have pointed out, Japanese publishers are still making more money than the Western publishers. Smaller Japanese devs may be struggling and the perception that the Japanese industry is struggling is more to do with the fact that much of Japanese development has migrated to handhelds. Console (software) sales are down overall but they still manage to make money.
The other issue is that in terms of technology, Japan is very far behind the West. Even the best looking Japanese games are only average on a technical level.
Japan has a shrinking population while at the same time other markets have opened/grown in gaming;.
China had in 2002 an gaming market of 200 million $ this year it will be around 4,5 Billion $ and that is only for the online gaming market, South America, East Europe, Russia, India are all growing market so it is not strange to see the Japanese market going down to 10% of the world;
KillerMan said:
Just look at financial reports from publishers.It's west that is doing poorly. Yes unit wise western publishers ship more games nowadays but it doesn't mean anything if you are unable to make profit from those sales. I also love how people forget handhelds. Japanese companies are dominating handheld software market. |
nad you know that XBOX the main western console doesn't have a handheld so the games are both western and japanese
xbox on consoles bought alot of western games and PS3 the other japanese third party supporting hardware manufacture made big mistakes so this gen turned out bad for japanese industry
| MrT-Tar said: Outside of Nintendo and Level-5, Japan isn't quite as rosy |
Outside Valve and Blizzard, the same's basically true in the west. Really, almost everyone is doing awful these days, regardless of location.
| Scoobes said: As others have pointed out, Japanese publishers are still making more money than the Western publishers. Smaller Japanese devs may be struggling and the perception that the Japanese industry is struggling is more to do with the fact that much of Japanese development has migrated to handhelds. Console (software) sales are down overall but they still manage to make money. The other issue is that in terms of technology, Japan is very far behind the West. Even the best looking Japanese games are only average on a technical level. |
But that also comes into the issue of the West and Japan largely catering to two different segments. The consoles the West has focused on are themselves more technologically advanced, so it makes sense that the West has the edge there because the primary realm they're engaged in is itself more technologically advanced, so they have more expertise there
Someone could point to the grand, technologically ambitious The Old Republic from BioWare, a PC MMO, and compare it to the clumsy FFXIV from Square Enix and talk about Japanese regression, but put BioWare on the DS and you get Sonic Chronicles. Put Square Enix on the DS? You get Dragon Quest IX

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Mr Khan said:
But that also comes into the issue of the West and Japan largely catering to two different segments. The consoles the West has focused on are themselves more technologically advanced, so it makes sense that the West has the edge there because the primary realm they're engaged in is itself more technologically advanced, so they have more expertise there Someone could point to the grand, technologically ambitious The Old Republic from BioWare, a PC MMO, and compare it to the clumsy FFXIV from Square Enix and talk about Japanese regression, but put BioWare on the DS and you get Sonic Chronicles. Put Square Enix on the DS? You get Dragon Quest IX |
Now you didnt have to throw Sonic underneath the bus to prove a point. You could of used a different example.
Xxain said:
Now you didnt have to throw Sonic underneath the bus to prove a point. You could of used a different example. |
:(. Look at my sig. I'm not the kind to needlessly bash Sonic at all, but Chronicles was, at best, a missed opportunity even for fans of modern Sonic games like me, and the game certainly failed on a production values standpoint

Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Solid_Snake4RD said:
this thread is about japanese games declining not west struggling
and the PS3 sales in japan and west isn't the topic it is how japanese games sell everywhere that is both the west and japan |
I see, but I don't think support is the problem. They just need to start putting out better games.
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jarrod said:
Outside Valve and Blizzard, the same's basically true in the west. Really, almost everyone is doing awful these days, regardless of location. |
activision doesn't really have that good profits either,they have big revenues though
and it is not the same as the game liking of gamers is starting to change