so this is just bundles and special editions

don't know hoe much it will sell standalone

Nope you're mad ! It is including all the versions, you don't seem to realize how big it is for JUST FRANCE.

How big is France compared to the rest of Europe?

I know that the UK is around 25% of the European gaming market...

I am not saying its small

just thought it was for the bundle,special editions,that is how it is reported

That means about 2.5 to 3m for Europe minimum I would say. Take into account Japan and America, and we should at least 6m this year right?

thats insane

I thought Sony was planning to ship 7 Mil Copies this year.

I could be wrong but it was some info that came from the Blu Ray factory of something saying how delaying GT5 would affect Sony trying to make 7 Mil discs...

lol this means about 3 million only in europe i think

But it doesnt even have a release date :P 

Is this just shipped copies or Shipped based on pre orders??

A man in game whispered december the 10th as a release date to me yesterday. Don't know why he whispered it though cause there was know one else in the store lol. Don't know if I should believe it because big games like this get released on a tuesday in Ireland and the UK and December the 10th is on a Friday