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Scoobes said:
Ninpanda said:
Scoobes said:

No. 31: Neverwinter Nights 2 (& Mask of the Betrayer) (PC)

Another RPG, another sequel, another game developed by Obsidian. This game was highly enjoyable. with some amazing characters and was a welcome return to the Forgotten Realms. A welcome feature was the return to 4-character parties rather than just the single sidekick of NWN1. It had virtually everything you'd want from a WRPG and even added a lil' bit of sim city when you get your fort. The only downsides were that it ran poorly (poorly optimised) for a game that looked good, but not amazing and that Neverwinter (the city) seemed smaller than the original. It also didn't really bring anything truly innovative to table and stuck to the typical WRPG formula (not neccessarily a bad thing mind). 

I've never played this game. I like the original, though. I should really try to track down a copy someday.

It's a very good game. I think I still prefer the original, but this is right up there.

The four party members really does improves the tactical aspect. I remember being really thankful the gave a sorceror as one of the companions as her spell set was insane and I didn't use many spell casters in the original. The story as well has everything you'd want from a WRPG.

I haven't played Mask of the betrayer I heard that was better than nwn2? I liked it, but I liked NWN the original better. Another game I forgot on my list



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35. Dragon Warrior II (GBC)

Dragon Warrior was good, but adding more characters to your party makes Dragon Warrior II great.  It keeps the hard to find items from the first game, not falling prey to the "I'm going to tell you exactly where to go" nature of more modern games.  I miss games like this, which give such a great sense of discovery to your endeavours.  The world is a well crafted fantasy land which for the first time really captured the feelings of wonder I'd experienced while reading books as child.  I also fondly remember having to pay attention to every area I went through in the event I needed to come back to open a door to find the treasure within.  Finding the appropriate key was both agonizing and exhilarating.

34. Pokemon Blue (GBC)

Unlike some of the games from later in the series this one isn't judged with the sense that I've been there, played that.  The creation of 150 new monsters for you to collect, train and battle with opened up a new world of wonder (and obsession).  On top of that, you were never quite sure what to expect would lie between you and your next gym encounter.  Everything in this one was new and the pace of the game was right on target for its audience.  To this day, the original pokemon are the ones I like most (its hard to even remember some after that).

33. Final Fantasy VII (PS)

The beginning of Final Fantasy in with 3D graphics and the first Final Fantasy game I ever played was a great introduction.  I have vivid memories of the reactor at the beginning of the game which launched you into your adventure.  The characters and story are good, even though I was never driven to really care about what happened, and there is a lot to do in this game.  The minigames included were also a fun respite from the toils of tracking down Sephiroth.  I enjoyed the limits and materia customization as it allowed you to really build upon the characters skills.  There was a certain level of satisfaction gained from leveling up your materia until you'd mastered just about everything and watching knights of the round go on seemingly forever.  The graphics weren't as nice as previous games but you have to take the first step somewhere and I've never let graphics get in the way of my enjoyment of a game.

32. 3D Dot Game Heroes (PS3)

This was more than just a 2D Zelda experience for the PS3.  I absolutely loved the stylized 3D pixel graphics which ended up being a thing of beauty.  A lot of the story is blatantly ripped away from Zelda games but is nicely intermixed with a complete and blatant destruction of the fourth wall.  The gameplay is exactly what you'd expect but done well and with the addition of trophies to give you something to show for the challenges you'd always give yourself when playing a Zelda game.  There were so many moments in this game that made me break into laughter for their sheer ridiculousness.  I also welcome the difficulty of later parts of the game, something that I felt has been missing in recent Zelda games.  On top of all that there was the wonderful loading art and prerelease vignettes which are full of references.

31. Katamari Damacy (PS2)

At first glance I didn't think this game could be any good, naturally I was wrong.  Part of it is the glee of picking up a building, another part is the subtle puzzle of how to find the next object that isn't too small that it does you no good but not too large that you bounce harmlessly aside.  Altogether it's a simple concept with nearly infinitely adjustable difficulty and the addiction level of tetris.  The preposterous items you pick up, the catchy music, and the incomprehensible story add to the experience without diminishing the fun of the gameplay.  Exploring the levels without trying to reach the goal can be about as much fun as playing the game as intended and the buildup to the final level entirely meets your expectations.



Primarily an RPG player but have interest in any game that will make me think. 

ishiki said:
Scoobes said:
Ninpanda said:
Scoobes said:

No. 31: Neverwinter Nights 2 (& Mask of the Betrayer) (PC)

Another RPG, another sequel, another game developed by Obsidian. This game was highly enjoyable. with some amazing characters and was a welcome return to the Forgotten Realms. A welcome feature was the return to 4-character parties rather than just the single sidekick of NWN1. It had virtually everything you'd want from a WRPG and even added a lil' bit of sim city when you get your fort. The only downsides were that it ran poorly (poorly optimised) for a game that looked good, but not amazing and that Neverwinter (the city) seemed smaller than the original. It also didn't really bring anything truly innovative to table and stuck to the typical WRPG formula (not neccessarily a bad thing mind). 

I've never played this game. I like the original, though. I should really try to track down a copy someday.

It's a very good game. I think I still prefer the original, but this is right up there.

The four party members really does improves the tactical aspect. I remember being really thankful the gave a sorceror as one of the companions as her spell set was insane and I didn't use many spell casters in the original. The story as well has everything you'd want from a WRPG.

I haven't played Mask of the betrayer I heard that was better than nwn2? I liked it, but I liked NWN the original better. Another game I forgot on my list

I wouldn't say better but it continued the story nicely. It basically retained the quality of NWN2 but altered the tone of the game. For instance, the NPC allies are far more serious, with none of the light hearted joking of characters like Neeshka or Khelgar. There's a greater sense of forboding in Mask of the Betrayer. Basically, the complete opposite of what Final Fantasy X-2 did for FFX.



I love Katamari Damacy sadly I forgot add it to my list till it was to lat T_T  



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31. Tactics Ogre
I have not played this game in 10 years or so. But what I remember was a great fun SRPG. that was deeper and better plot, than ff tactics. Quite unique! Though ofcourse I don't play many SRPG's so can't say for sure if they are unique. This is my favorite SRPG. I'm excited for the psp remake.

30. Half Life 2
At the time, it was extremely polished a bit linear. And extremeley immersive. Alyx Vance is one of my favorite characters in a game.  Also this game has a bunch of other great characters and presents it in an immersive way. It also has an interesting story. Too bad Gordon Freeman is boring and doesn't talk (I don't like silent protagonist) and in my opinion brings the game down. And it had the gravity gun.

Also I would have included Episode 2 on the list becaues it's better than Half-Life 2 however I consider it not a whole game... And Half Life Episode 1 sucked pretty much imo.

Also I feel it's a bit too linear, kinda like another game coming up ;). But at the same time this game as excellent excellent pacing and this might have been sacrificed if not made this way. Which might be a bad thing.

 

I also realized I forgot perfect dark on my list haha.



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I've been so horrible with updating my list. Here are the games i've added since I last posted in the discussion thread...along with some explanation for a few of them.

 

43) Super Smash TV (SNES)

42) Bunrout 3 (Xbox)

41) 007 nightfire (GCN)

EA's finest Bond iteration may not have been as groundbreaking as Goldeneye, but it sure was a fun game.  Under EA the bond series tried to focus on the stealth and gadgets.  The campaign had a lot going for it.  Sure the first playthrough was somewhat short, but the replayablility was fairly high with the platinum rankings and multiple paths in the levels.  Multiplayer was awesome with tons of guns(all crazy accurate, but I can forgive it), fun maps, and psuedo-customizable bots.  Overall a fun game with a satisfying quality campaign and addicting multiplayer.

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40) Boom Blox bash party

 

Some hate the genre, or the reference of 'party game', or the third party wii stigma.  I say bring on the interactive, deep puzzle games.  The sequel to the smash hit boom blox trimmed most of the fat from the original leaving a satisfying game to be enjoyed by both core and casual alike.  To me this has been more than just a party game.  Some of the single player gold medals are devilish.  Co-op can be great.  Of course competitive multiplayer is a blast!  Most of all though, User-created content is amazing.  I'd argue this game has the capacity for core play equal to little big planet o_O.  Furthermore most of the gameplay tools(throwing balls, pulling blox...urr blocks etc) have been some of my favorite use of motion ever in gaming.

 This is a damn good wii game EA!

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39) Lemmings (SNES)

38) Monster Hunter Tri 

 

Some gamers have grown impatient the past few years with some casual games nintendo and third parties have been publishing.  This can help put that thought to rest. Great online, deep gameplay and rewarding quests make for a true gem.  Undoubtedly it is not for everyone, and the learning curve is quite high, but once you're in, you're hooked.

To some people this is game of the year worthy. I'd say it's the finest third party game on the wii.  Thank you capcom.
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37) Donkey Kong Country 2 Diddy Kong's quest

36) Street Fighter 2 (SNES)

35) Sonic & Knuckles

I have a confession to make. I love the SNES!!!!!! However I did at one point own a sega genesis aswell. Many of the super arch rival games seemed like b-rated generic copies, but I do have to give props to Sonic. Sure the save system was convoluted at best, but he did deliver solid gameplay and more importantly competition.  My favorite of the series was Sonic and Knuckles.  S&K featured solid platforming, alternate routes, and great bosses.  Quite a blast to play through. Most importantly though this was the most replayable Sonic game with a playable Knuckles and the stellar sphere minigame.

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34) F-Zero GX

F Zero had always been a quality racing franchise, but GX came and rocked the world of many.  Anyone creating a top 10 hardest games list will undoubtedly include this gem.  This racer featured fast gameplay, smooth controls, plenty of drivers with differing vehicles, and vehicle customization.  I hope to see the series get some love as a 3DS title or super Wii launch title.

33) Final fight

32) Halo Reach

31) Contra 3(SNES)



29. Diablo II - Lord of Destruction (PC)

Well, still my favourite PC game, and so also the highest ranked PC game on my list. It was simply an amazing game.



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29. Duke Nukem 3D (PC)

Those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up his ride... As with Doom before it, I was probably far too young to have played this game when I did, but what's done is done. It was puerile, it was immature, but I loved every minute of it, and yes, I will be getting Duke Nukem Forever, assuming it does actually get released...



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29. Star Wars: Battlefront (PS2)

Battlefront is basically every Star Wars fan's wet dream. Players choose a side in the Galactic Civil War and proceed to duke it out across huge, sprawling battlefields: Yavin! Hoth! Endor! Cloud City! Even that wretched hive of scum and villainy the U.S. House of Representatives Mos Eisely! And if you happen to be the sort of slow-in-the-mind who thinks The Phantom Menace is the height of cinema, fret not. Those shitty prequels you love so much are well represented, too. With four factions, a number of troop types, tons of vehicles to jack, and the sweetness of Galactic Conquest Mode, Battlefront was a triumph in every since of the word. It's a true wonder that we haven't seen a PS360 sequel, as the series seems custom made for this online multiplayer-centric generation. Sadly, in accordance with George Lucas' strict policy that nothing good shall come of his precioussss ever, ever again, the two attempts at making one ended in failure and the deaths of many Bothans. But we'll always have this piece of Star Wars gaming bliss, at least until Darth Goiter finds a way to inject Hayden Christensen's CGI likeness into each and every copy.



29. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - PS

Talk about a breath of fresh air! During the late 90s, pretty much every video game franchise was going 3D, whether it was a good choice or not. But Konami was one of the few who had the balls to make a 2D game during an era, where 3D games were the new black.

But then they caved, and made the piece of *vulgar term for poo*, that is Castlevania 64. -_- (But that's for another time, and another thread.)

Symphony of the Night might lack the difficulty that the earlier games are known for, but it is nevertheless the pinnacle of the franchise.