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Khuutra said:

Number 11

Final Fantasy XII

I don't want to hear it, not from a single one of you. You want to know what the best Final Fantasy game is? Look no further. This is it right here. I'm going to tell you why.

This game has everything, but the primary and most improtant thing it has is the direction and writing of one Yasumi Matsuno, the final member of my Big Four game writers. In setting FFXII in Ivalice's distant and more magical past, Matsuno set the stage for a tremendous opera full of betrayal, political machinations, and excellent, subtly-written characters with complex motivations, real development, and a sense of consequences to their actions. We got all of that in spades.

No FInal Fantasy world - not a single one - is as massive and fully realized as is the Ivalice of FFXII. It is a world filled with many cultures that interact and clash in unique ways, who hold different histories and different self-evident truths. Ivalice is a world with conflicting histories, where the truth of the past is dependent almost entirely on perspective and belief, where hints at "reality" have to be taken with a grain of salt regardless of who says them, even the gods purported to be the world's engineers. In short, it is a world that operates much as ours does, where victors write the history books on a celestial scale, where sovereignty is often a function of military prowess, and where the idea of the sacred does not transcend cultures. It is a fascinating world to explore, and I spent a very long time filling out the bestiary in order to see as much as I could of a single perspective on how the world was formed.

The plot is standard Matsuno faire, which is to say that it's a continent-spanning political storm of betrayal and war, where the fate of millions often hangs on the whims of families or individuals, on the grudges held over slights that may or may not be imagined. There is a real power lent to the proceedings by the cast of characters and the excellent script, but the plot itself, the events that form the bare skeleton of the story, is far and away the best in this series. It pulls no punches, makes no concessions for the slow or the short-attention-spanned, and spends a long time building its foundations into something that can hold up a palace of narrative.

The characters are on a level with Matsuno's work in the Ogre Battle saga, which is to say that they're better than the characters in every other Final Fantasy. Each of them has a role to fulfill - as the queen, the hero, the rogue, the expatriate, the dreamer, and the ground who reminds the rest of the party what it is they should be fighting for - and each of them fulfills it excellently, with no excess material to get in the way of their actions and their developments. Basch and Ashe alone easily qualify as the best-written Final Fantasy protagonists of all time, and the same nod could be given to Balthier. Each of them has their own motivations, some less immediately apparent than others, and these motivations are held to consistently and believably. The cast of villains is no worse - in fact they may well be better, a triumvirate of disparate intentions that combine to form the greatest adversarial force the series has ever known (yes, even better than Kefka). Every character, every one, comes into the story with something they want, and every single one of them either succeeds or fails in fashions both explosive and hauntingly quiet.

The script is... beyond my capacity for hyperbole. It is excellently written, extremely tight from a narrative perspective, with no wasted words but with a natural rhythm and flow to its language that sets it apart from the clunky, anime-esque scripting of its peers. From the iambic pentameter of the Occuria to the high-born speech of Vayne to the plaintive admonitions of Migelo, each character has their own distinctive voice, their own way of speaking, which makes sense against the background of their culture and their own personal pasts. Character is communicated in grammar, in word choice and in tone, and in many media this is something that is taken for granted but in FFXII it is almost revelatory. There is no single better script in gaming, not in terms of writing or in terms of acting.

Final Fantasy XII's story is one that is about familly, on every level. All of the game's betrayals, vengeances, and desperate last stands against oppressors are tied into the idea of family on different levels, be it one's brother or one's countrymen. There is no evil in this game; there is only a collection of families who see their own needs and act to fulfill them, even at the expense of other families. Thematically it is the tightest game in its series save for Final Fantasy IV, and even that is a point that I would be willing to argue.

The gameplay is down to choice; some people play without Gambtis. Some set them up to chew through a 50-million HP boss in less than an hour. All of these are excellent ways to play. You can do it however you want, and the game will not hold your hand through any of it, which is something I respect even as it blunts the efforts of the impatient.

The game is beautiful, of course, visually and aurally, but does talking about beauty communicate anything of importance? No. Beauty is something that has to be experienced in order to be appreciated, so I urge you to experience it for yourself; experience the beating drums of the battle with an Esper, the shining terror of the Royal Guard of House Solidor descending upon hapless fools, the scale and horror of war as it might be with the aid of magic. Look upon the rise and fall of gods, the death of brotherhood, the pulling down of empires. There is so much to be seen here, and it is so beautiful.

Awesome Game I just wish Ashe had been made the main Character.  



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10. Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes

Sure, I played and owned the original, but this version is mo betta.  Also my first interactive movie, MGS played an important factor in my decision to buy a PS1.  A co worker of mine during my Taco Bell days hyped this game to the heavens so I gave one of my managers $300 cash to pick me up a PS1 with this game on her break.  I couldn't wait to get home from work to see what the fuss was all about.  I'm glad I listened to my friend.  Great leading character, arguably the greatest villains in video game history, smooth gameplay and production.  An all around great gaming experience.  I haven't played a MGS game since.  Actually, I sold my PS1 to my friend that recommended the game to me in the first place, but not before playing NUMBER 9 ON MY LIST....

9. Final Fantasy VII

My first Final Fantasy.  The only other console Final Fantasy I've played (FFXIII being the other).  I think enough has been said about the greatness of this game in this thread. 




360 Games Now Playing   360 Games unopened:  Resonance of Fate  Last 360 Game I Beat: Resident Evil 5

DS Games Now Playing: Dragon Quest VI  DS Games unopened Knights in the Nightmare, Etrian Odyssey III, Okamiden, Dragon Quest IX Last DS Game I beat: Radiant Historia

Wii Games Now Playing  Super Mario Galaxy 2, Arc Rise Fantasia  Wii  Games unopened  Little King's Story, Sonic Colors, Silent Hill Shattered Memories Last Wii Game I beat: Sin & Punishment 2

7. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3)

At the moment I finished this game I started to really love my PS3. MGS4 had all what an amazing game needs. Great characters, an engaging story, excellent gameplay and also some of the best boss fights I've seen in videogames. The only "bad" thing about MGS4: it ends the awesome storyline.



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9. Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube

Due to a few forgettable spin-offs and some lousy movies, the Resident Evil series wasn't doing so hot in the early 2000s. But then, Shinji Mikami decided to start all over. And boy, I'm glad he did.

The result was a game, that became one of the most imitated of the last 20 years, with it's over-the-shoulder viewpoint and smart implementation of quick-time events.

Resident Evil 4 actually made a serious run for the number 1 spot, but ultimately settled at number 9.

8. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Gamecube

Some people say Echoes is the black sheep of the Prime trilogy. Even if that were true, being the black sheep of the best trilogy in video game history isn't necessarily such a horrible thing.

The hunt for the nine Sky Temple Keys admittedly dragged on for a little too long, but that is the only thing holding this jewel back from breaking the top 5. From the moment you crash-landed on Aether, to the fierce battle with the Emperor Ing, there isn't a single unmemorable moment in this game. The gameplay was sharp, the music kicked all kinds of ass, and to this day, Aether remains one of the most compelling and utterly wonderful video game settings of all time.

I give this game my highest recommendations.



7. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - SNES

After scaring a few loyal followers with Zelda II, A Link to the Past was everything the fans dreamed a true Zelda sequel would be, and more. The combat was smoother, the environments were bigger, and the music was awesome-er.

Needless to say, the game was a smash-hit. Adored by fans and critics alike, A Link to the Past held Nintendo Power's #1 spot on the top games list for over five consecutive years.

Simply put, this is one incredible game, that shouldn't be missed by anyone.



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6. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)

What a brilliant game! Sure, it doesn't really do anything innovative, but it does everything completely perfect. Every part of it is awesome, and I can't get enough of it. Uncharted was great, but Uncharted 2 was still a huge improvement and deserves all the praise it gets.



2012 - Top 3 [so far]

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6. Super Mario Bros. 3 - NES

As you can probably tell by the screenshot above, this game is absolute insanity. Flying Italians dressed up as raccoons, giant walking mushrooms, turtles trying to kill you with boomerangs are just the icing on this wonderfully weird cake. How many other games can you name, that had an entire movie made to promote it's release? Yeah. That's what I thought.

If you have an NES, GBA, Wii or anything that you can play this game on, you have to have this game. If you've never experienced this bliss, I pity you. And your children.



No. 12 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)

I was dissappointed with Metal Gear Solid 2 and so I didn't bother playing this one immediately. After it went platinum I purchased it and realised I was missing out on an amazing game. It retained the gameplay that made Metal Gear Solid great, but evolved it for the new jungle environment. It also got rid of the radar and added a camouflage system due to the older technology in its cold war time period.The graphics as well were some of the best on PS2 and when played on an upscaled BC PS3, are still superior to a good number of early HD titles.

However, what really pushses this game to no. 12 is the storyline and the bosses. A common theme in Metal Gear is the relationship between mentor and student and here we learn of the relationship between Naked Snake (soon to be Big Boss) and his mentor The Boss. The ending is one of the most emotional I've seen/played in video games but also opens a range of questions for MGS4 whilst explaining some of the questions posed in MGS 1 & 2.

MGS boss fights are always spectacular, and MGS3 doesn't dissappoint. For this though, all I'll say is "The End" and "Sniper battle"



No. 11 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (PC, also on X-box)

Bioware make great RPGs. Mix Bioware and Star Wars and you get the greatest Star Wars game ever created. The game was pretty much an entire Star Wars trilogy wrapped into a single game and even with its own lil' "I am your Father" shock moment. The story was superb, the characters were deep and interesting but still quintessentially Star Wars. The relationship between you and the other characters was still player influenced as with older WRPGs, but were given a new level of polish due to the focus on story and the new graphical hardware available. Being set 5000 years before the original Star Wars trilogy also helped by giving the game greater freedom in comparison to other Star Wars games; not trapped by the original storyline but still balanced within the coolness of the Star Wars universe with lightsabers, force powers and space fights.



8. Resident Evil 4

Maybe one of these days I'll give Resident Evil 5 a chance.

7. Perfect Dark

I honestly don't know how I graduated high school.  All I remember is playing this game with my buddies late into the morning every weekday night while my pop worked the graveyard shift.  My favorite FPS, and multi player game of all time.

6. Metroid Prime

My first Metroid game and still my favorite.  Great gameplay, graphics, music, enemies, and weapons, Metroid Prime will always hold a very special place in my game collection. 




360 Games Now Playing   360 Games unopened:  Resonance of Fate  Last 360 Game I Beat: Resident Evil 5

DS Games Now Playing: Dragon Quest VI  DS Games unopened Knights in the Nightmare, Etrian Odyssey III, Okamiden, Dragon Quest IX Last DS Game I beat: Radiant Historia

Wii Games Now Playing  Super Mario Galaxy 2, Arc Rise Fantasia  Wii  Games unopened  Little King's Story, Sonic Colors, Silent Hill Shattered Memories Last Wii Game I beat: Sin & Punishment 2