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darthdevidem01 on 31 October 2010
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I don't remember having called Move a ''failure'' but that's ok if you want to put this word in my mouth. Anyway if you think 750k unit sold after a whole month a a half of sales is a success than you too should try to look at the big picture. Anyway that's another story...

True, not a failure. Flop was the word you used, despite you not knowing any of Sony's expectations.

I apologize.


I can agree with what carl said, those very words were used on a news article by atma.



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atma998 on 31 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I don't remember having called Move a ''failure'' but that's ok if you want to put this word in my mouth. Anyway if you think 750k unit sold after a whole month a a half of sales is a success than you too should try to look at the big picture. Anyway that's another story...

True, not a failure. Flop was the word you used, despite you not knowing any of Sony's expectations.

I apologize.


I can agree with what carl said, those very words were used on a news article by atma.


Doesnt change the numbers either, sorry. But if you absolutely want to talk about Move, please feel free to start another thread on that topic.



Carl on 31 October 2010
atma998 said:

Doesnt change the numbers either, sorry. But if you absolutely want to talk about Move, please feel free to start another thread on that topic.

What do you mean, "doesn't change the numbers"?

We don't want to change them.

They're good as they are.

PS Move is selling well.

PS3 sold a quarter of a million this week.

Sony fans are happy! :D



                            

darthdevidem01 on 31 October 2010
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I don't remember having called Move a ''failure'' but that's ok if you want to put this word in my mouth. Anyway if you think 750k unit sold after a whole month a a half of sales is a success than you too should try to look at the big picture. Anyway that's another story...

True, not a failure. Flop was the word you used, despite you not knowing any of Sony's expectations.

I apologize.


I can agree with what carl said, those very words were used on a news article by atma.


Doesnt change the numbers either, sorry. But if you absolutely want to talk about Move, please feel free to start another thread on that topic.

I know it doesn't change the numbers, but sorry to tell you that the numbers are awesome so it doesn't matter.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

atma998 on 31 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I don't remember having called Move a ''failure'' but that's ok if you want to put this word in my mouth. Anyway if you think 750k unit sold after a whole month a a half of sales is a success than you too should try to look at the big picture. Anyway that's another story...

True, not a failure. Flop was the word you used, despite you not knowing any of Sony's expectations.

I apologize.


I can agree with what carl said, those very words were used on a news article by atma.


Doesnt change the numbers either, sorry. But if you absolutely want to talk about Move, please feel free to start another thread on that topic.

I know it doesn't change the numbers, but sorry to tell you that the numbers are awesome so it doesn't matter.

Hahahahaha

Awesome? lol

Ok so you're telling us that with all the hype, the massive ad campaign and everything, Move sales not even coming close to a million after a whole month and a half are....awesome?

You know what, I give up! There is really nothing to do with you guys, Carl, Darth and CGI, you will stay blind for the rest of your life.



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atma998 on 31 October 2010
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Seece said:



CGI as you claim to be an abassader of both consoles (yes I know you faovur Sony) I find your recent posts/ behaviour? very unhelpful and telling. There is just this nagging gut feeling I have you're thrilled PS3 is thrashing 360 (good for you) and you show such clear passion and excitment for Sony, had this been in MS's favour, all we would have gotten from you was "that's great for Microsoft ", what Kowen said was true, just my opinion.

I wish more sony fans were gracious in victory, like Carl, Kantor, GodofWar.

Some people's true colours have come out these past few days, and it's pretty ugly.

I am thrilled with PS3's numbers, it's doing good and I want to see it continue to do good. But my main problem I have with your view, the only real problem I've ever had with you, is that you're so black and white. There's a such thing as having a preference, cheering on that preference, and not downing the competition. That's me. I haven't knocked anything in here, going even as far as proping the 360's US numbers, but yet it's still not enough.

It's not about "true colors" all the time Seece, in fact, that's a narrow way of looking at things in my view. Seeing as I own all consoles, I have whatever right to speak about them as I please, so long as it's reasonable and civil. You quote me as being "unhelpful," or whatever, but ignore true trouble causing posters such as Kowenicki and Atma. It says that you have a personal problem with specific posters (which looking at your recent battles, I'm sure of it).

You're a decent guy most of the time Seece and I have a good amount of respect for you and what you have contributed to this site, you just need to ease up on the labels. If anything, THEY really don't help much.

Really? Now we are causing trouble? lol

Let's be honest, we have all our own preferences.The difference between you and us is just that we are less hypocrite than you. By that I mean that I won't blame people for acting exactly the same way I am. If I was blaming some Sony fans here that posted exaggerated comments about this weekly sales nor refusing to see the bigger picture, it's because I've never did that in the past hundred weeks where the Wii was totally dominating the PS3 for example.

Again be honest, you would probably be the first here to blame that type of comments if for example I would have posted arrogant comments like these ones. And just to let you know trying to put things into perspective, even if you don't like it, doesnt mean downing the competition.

All in all I think it's just a matter of honesty.

So, since I'm so "hypocritical" and dont see the bigger picture, explain it. What is the big picture?

The big picture I was referring to when I wrote:

Now is PS3 doing good right now? Yes. Would it be able to recover its LTD losses? Most probably not. Would it be able to get back to its lead position? No. Would it have the power to decide anything about next-gen? Hell no.

Whatever I don't think you will try to understand the whole point people like me or kowenicki bring to that forum so please don't make us waste our time furthermore.

p.s. If you still doesnt know which comments were exaggerated, read the whole thread all over again because I'm just fed up of repeating myself over and over again.

Man this post is all over the place.

So, let me get this right - the bigger picture is the PS3 isn't the PS2? Pretty much what I gather from Kowenicki's words and your quote. Now I ask, why should PS fans be upset that the PS3 isn't the PS2? Why should they care if it doesn't recoup every dime it's lost? Is it in a healthy position? Yes. Is it making money at all? Yes. Are they playing the games they want? Yes. Is Sony continuing to provide great exclusive content? Yes. Has the system done well for itself, considering it's less than stellar start? Yes.

Now tell me, why again should anyone be bugged that the PS3 isn't the PS2? Why shouldn't fans celebrate when their console of choice is doing better than before? Why the Hell does it bother you (or Kowenicki) so damn much when people cheer on their favored console? And why are you daring to mention people celebrating when you (and Kowenicki) did the same for the Wii and 360 in previous situations?

Don't give me any BS about you don't feel like explaining anything else, especially when your explanation is a quoting of a previous post (that isn't even yours). You accuse others of all kinds of nonsense when you, yourself have a strong, obvious bias and are known to stir up trouble. If you don't like that people are happy for the PS3, fine, I have no argument there. Just quit acting like you're so much greater than the next guy and tossing out tit-for-tat petty insults when you're no better.

Each question you're asking here were already answered.

Did I not just say please don't make us waste our time furthermore.



darthdevidem01 on 31 October 2010
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I don't remember having called Move a ''failure'' but that's ok if you want to put this word in my mouth. Anyway if you think 750k unit sold after a whole month a a half of sales is a success than you too should try to look at the big picture. Anyway that's another story...

True, not a failure. Flop was the word you used, despite you not knowing any of Sony's expectations.

I apologize.


I can agree with what carl said, those very words were used on a news article by atma.


Doesnt change the numbers either, sorry. But if you absolutely want to talk about Move, please feel free to start another thread on that topic.

I know it doesn't change the numbers, but sorry to tell you that the numbers are awesome so it doesn't matter.

Hahahahaha

Awesome? lol

Ok so you're telling us that with all the hype, the massive ad campaign and everything, Move sales not even coming close to a million after a whole month and a half are....awesome?

You know what, I give up! There is really nothing to do with you guys, Carl, Darth and CGI, you will stay blind for the rest of your life.

I don't mind staying blind for the rest of my life if I believe Ps MOVE sales are amazing.

If I am ready to take a bullet for SONY, I am ready to stay blind for them!

So be it, Jedi!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Carl on 31 October 2010
atma998 said:

Hahahahaha

Awesome? lol

Ok so you're telling us that with all the hype, the massive ad campaign and everything, Move sales not even coming close to a million after a whole month and a half are....awesome?

You know what, I give up! There is really nothing to do with you guys, Carl, Darth and CGI, you will stay blind for the rest of your life.

All the hype? Massive ad campaign?

Sony said it would be a slow burner. They've had to increase production.

You're wrong. Bye!



                            

hatmoza on 31 October 2010

I woke up and the first thing I wanted to do, before even washing my face, was check this thread.



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raptors11 on 31 October 2010

Nothing I can add that hasn't been said. Nice week PS3.