When I first read the title I thought that Kinect wouldn't have any review's whatsoever.

Hmm funny, now why wouldn't MS want people to get there hands on this device as soon as possible and spread their impressions? What do they have to hide?

This is just classic MS.. *Wiggles fingers. "Go buy our mediocre product everyone! Don't pay attention to the accounts of lag, or the fact that you cannot play while sitting. Don't pay attention to the fact that it only recognizes two people at a time or that you may need to change your clothes to brighter colors. Don't worry about the fact that it will cost you $300 for an Xbox 360 and another $150 for Kinect, that currently supports 17 games that all look like they are mini games from Mario Party yet cost $60 each."

I don't see what more proof people need that this thing is going to suck, big time. It is all typical smoke and mirrors from MS. Sure it will sell like mad for a couple of months from the sheer novelty of 3D motion controller-less gaming, but expect the sales of this thing to plummet after people realized they were duped into buying an overhyped Eye Toy 2.0 with a bunch of games equivilant to Wii 3rd party shovelware. Seriously, if people think there was a major hardcore bashlash against Nintendo for the Wii, they haven't seen nothin yet. Now the Move may be a shameless Wiimote ripoff but at least Sony is supporting some games for it that aren't an insult to gamers' intelligence.

An insult to gamer's intelligence? You might have a point if your post wasn't dripping in bs hyperbole that anybody reading your posts here for the past few months would expect.

The launch games will bomb, nothing we don't already know. This wont stop casuals for picking up the device though. However if press badmouth it before it can be bough they will lose potential buyers.

Thats actually how it should be done.   Not necessarily that strict but you also shouldn't let someone who only likes romantic comedies review a horror film.

I've seen complaints on this forum more than once, from fans of all consoles, that a site got a reviewer who generally hates a specific genre review a game from that genre and give it a not so great review.  JRPGs are a classic example.  How many people have said "well, it's a JPRG, all the gaming media hate them and they get lower reviews than they deserve, so I only trust the reviews of people I know who actually like the genre in the first place"?  I've seen it more than once.

It would be awesome if every reviewer was neutral but that's simply not the case.

I saw one horrible preview of Kinect where the reviewer basically said "it sucked as much as I expected it to suck".  Which means he went in already having made up his mind that he wasn't going to like it.    He was from a site that isn't exactly small yet the guy had the words "fanboy" written all over him.

You really honestly believe kinect will have such massive success that they will use it as a loss leader? 

Is there a reflection in your crystal ball perhaps? :P

There is no reason, absolutely no reason to give a massively successful, brand new product away for free except in giveaways, sweepstakes, fundraisers, and very large purchases that have a lot of competition (like tvs, thousand dollar home-theater sound systems, etc).

Don't forget the fact that you also called it a loss leader. Why did you call it that? In the industry, a loss leader is one that can make the money back through software. I also question how this would help a retailer as hardware is never very profitable as opposed to games. If you give a huge discount on hardware, it's going to be even harder to make it back through the game profit.

ie; kinect costs retailer 122 per unit, let's say.
games cost 45-50 per unit.

give away the kinect and you have to make back 122$ worth of games profit, which turns into roughly 10 games per customer to break even.

Now, I'm also glad you brought up my sig. It shows just how superficial your investigations are. I've been interested in kinect since it was announced. I talked about the possibilities and was really excited about it. However, over time that excitement wore off after numerous goofs, bad planning, and this this kind of stuff in the OP sealed it.

So, maybe you should check my post history and actually see where I'm coming from. You want to look smart right? There's no better way to do that then to argue the point from an informed point of view rather than some pedantic measure of my character.

I kind of already addressed this "issue" once, but I'll say it again rather than make you read through this thread. 

Bundling with a tv or something is a no brainer. That's how you sell new tech. It's in every vanilla playbook. I worked at Best Buy and Epson. I know about the deals they give. However, what I'm saying is that stores are going to be blowing this out on low-margin products like the 360 itself. 

I believe that stores are going to be really overstocked with kinect this christmas. It's just not going to be that big. It's going to be big, but I believe that stores are going to fill their warehouses specifically because of things like quantity shipments etc.

Additionally, manufacturer discounts completely factor in with my bet in the first place. Microsoft makes a sale when the retailer buys the product, not when the consumer does. Microsoft is going to want to push as many of these as possible before word of mouth slams it. 

That's why it's coming out so close to christmas. That's why there aren't any reviews. That's why any good length of playtime by a consumer is nil. Get through Christmas. Get them out. Let people figure it out after christmas.

I've always thought that kinect was a cool product, the problem is that 
a) it's basically another wii, which everyone and their mom already has
b) It's no better than the wii
c) The core aren't interested
d) It's expensive to buy the full package.

However, for the core, none of those problems exist in the 360.

What to do?

give kinect with the 360. 

Solves all the problems and puts them in people's homes. I still also believe that there are going to be major problems with kinect's control style too. It will all implode sometime next year.

Yes, and the PS3 launch didn't go that well after the initial rush.  Which is exactly what people are pointing out is possible for Kinect.

@OP:

Sell it now, fix it later (if possible). Nothing new from MS.   

Exacticalalaly :3