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LordTheNightKnight on 17 October 2010
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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Toddifer on 17 October 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...



Bah!

LordTheNightKnight on 17 October 2010
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...


You think late redesigns never happen?



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Toddifer on 17 October 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...


You think late redesigns never happen?

In this case I don't think so; I think Nintendo is totally focused on their next console.



Bah!

LordTheNightKnight on 17 October 2010
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...


You think late redesigns never happen?

In this case I don't think so; I think Nintendo is totally focused on their next console.


You thinking so is not proof. Motives need more than just guesses.

Plus you seem to think Nintendo redesigned the NES and SNES interfered with their successors.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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Toddifer on 18 October 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...


You think late redesigns never happen?

In this case I don't think so; I think Nintendo is totally focused on their next console.


You thinking so is not proof. Motives need more than just guesses.

Plus you seem to think Nintendo redesigned the NES and SNES interfered with their successors.

I never said I had proof. It's a hunch. That's it. I don't know anything more about Nintendo's plans than anyone else.



Bah!

jarrod on 18 October 2010

Skipping a mid-cycle upgrade in favor of a true successor will likely pay off longer term.  It'll allow Nintendo to more easily right the ship in regard to Wii's current issues (a Wii HD wouldn't bring any more 3rd party support)... I mean, just imagine if Wii had been a simple GameCube upgrade as originally planned?

I do kinda wonder what happened to the DVD-movie playing version of Wii Nintendo originally promised for 2007?



LordTheNightKnight on 18 October 2010
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Toddifer said:

Is it a missed opportunity for Nintendo? Yeah, probably. And I know some people might think this is stupid but I actually almost respect Nintendo more for not releasing a Wii-HD because I think it would be kind of a cheap cash-in to get people to buy a new console for something that's not really all that special. Clearly the next Nintendo console will be an HD console, but I wouldn't buy a mild upgrade for the Wii. I'd rather just buy an all-new console when it launches, an not an interim console.


At most there would be a system redesign, if Nintendo feels they can make the structure of the system better.

But I don't see them doing that....do you? Especially not at such a late stage in the game...


You think late redesigns never happen?

In this case I don't think so; I think Nintendo is totally focused on their next console.


You thinking so is not proof. Motives need more than just guesses.

Plus you seem to think Nintendo redesigned the NES and SNES interfered with their successors.

I never said I had proof. It's a hunch. That's it. I don't know anything more about Nintendo's plans than anyone else.


Anyway, a redesign wouldn't get in the way of the next system. It would depend entirely on if Nintendo felt the could improve the pyisical system. The NES redesign got rid of the slot loader that was too sensitive to dust (the infamous cause of blowing on cartridges).



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight on 18 October 2010
jarrod said:

Skipping a mid-cycle upgrade in favor of a true successor will likely pay off longer term.  It'll allow Nintendo to more easily right the ship in regard to Wii's current issues (a Wii HD wouldn't bring any more 3rd party support)... I mean, just imagine if Wii had been a simple GameCube upgrade as originally planned?

I do kinda wonder what happened to the DVD-movie playing version of Wii Nintendo originally promised for 2007?


Well they might have worried it would go the way of the Gamecube DVD player.

Besides, check this out. http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/18/netflix.wii.drops.disc.requirement/#ixzz12iPyo692



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

jarrod on 18 October 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:

Anyway, a redesign wouldn't get in the way of the next system. It would depend entirely on if Nintendo felt the could improve the pyisical system. The NES redesign got rid of the slot loader that was too sensitive to dust (the infamous cause of blowing on cartridges).

I still think we could get a late term (or even post successor) Wii redesign too, more like NES/SNES/PSOne and less like Genesis/PS2/PS3/360.  Make it smaller/slimmer, bulk up the flash, Wiimote plus, drop the GC ports/compatibility, matte finish (like DSi/XL), Netflix pre-installed, various color options, etc.  Throw in WS/R or NSMB, charge $99, and I think you'd still have a pretty compelling product for 2012 or later (and maybe give Wii a chance yet to tumble PS2's lifetime benchmark).