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FF_Fanatic on 17 October 2010

ps3-360 gap is a tie confirmed, it took ages for x360 to get thast close to ps3, i predict ps3>>x360 next week due to move ps3 japan launch



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forest-spirit on 17 October 2010
Beuli2 said:
LordMatrix said:
forest-spirit said:
Beuli2 said:

Why is everyone teaming up again the Wii? Where are the Wii Warriors of Light and Wi Elite Defense Force at moments like these?


We have other things to worry about, like how to afford all the games coming the next few months.


Loving the sarcasm. Lol

Very sad by the low sales for Castlevania:LoS and Enslaved on both X360/PS3. :(

What sarcasm? There ARE a lot of big games upcoming: DK Returns, Kirby now, GoldenEye, Epic Mickey, Fliying Smash, Sonic Colors, and others I don't remember.


Now now, don't be angry at him. He just paid big money for a sarcasm detector that doesn't work.



ethomaz on 17 October 2010
zhao3gold said:

What is the evidence for the PS3 sales adjustment based on? Does it mean in the past few weeks, PS3 was already outsold than 360 in EMEAA region? 400K adjustment is quite big and it needs to show us some evidences.

Evidences for what? All users here knew that the PS3 was undertracked.

NPD, Charts in Europe, financial reports, PR, etc confirmed this.

Before these adjustmens there was the following scenario:

PS3 sold: 36M
PS3 shipped: 38.1M

Over 2M on shelves.

Now  there was the new scenario:

PS3 sold: 36.6M
PS3 shipped: 38.1M

1.5M on shelves... much more realistic and accurate.

All data from end of June (last financial report).



postofficebuddy on 17 October 2010
zhao3gold said:

What is the evidence for the PS3 sales adjustment based on? Does it mean in the past few weeks, PS3 was already outsold than 360 in EMEAA region? 400K adjustment is quite big and it needs to show us some evidences.


I don't know where the EMEAA adjustment was in. Probably had something to do with that SCEE CEO interview. The upwards adjustment in Americas appears to be a long-term one, going back more than a year. PS3 was performing MUCH better in Canada relative to the USA.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3695951

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=117360



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akuseru on 17 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:

It's nice to see the PS3 and 360 tied this week.

bwahahaha so you still remember that NPD thread


I do. The people calling that 360 tied with the PS3 that time will def shut up this time (or any other time for that matter). Just classic



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IMU1808 on 17 October 2010

360, PS3 then Wii?? WTF?



stopstopp on 17 October 2010
okr said:
huaxiong90 said:
okr said:
32
Sid Meier's Civilization V (PC)
2K Games
3 36,423 296,909

Interesting (and a bit disappointing for a Civ fan like me). I thought a new iteration in one of the most famous and acclaimed PC franchises - with several years between main entries - would sell way more in its first weeks. Slow burner or flop? Time will tell.

These numbers don't count Steam purchases, right?

Ah yes, that's correct. I forgot about missing Steam sales and I also think the irrational Civ fanboy in me expected more, while Firaxis is probably content with Civ V sales. Civ was probably never as big as I thought in the first place.


Lawl I keep posting way late but whatever.

Plus many fans including me are not happy with CiV. That game was a step backwards from day one if you ask me.



thismeintiel on 17 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
haxxiy said:
darthdevidem01 said:
KillerMan said:

Pretty horrible numbers all around. Whole market is way way down. X360 barely up yoy, PS3, DS, PSP and Wii way down. These numbers are horrible even compared to same week during 2007. Fortunately we get next year 3DS and PSP2 which should ensure that industry will be growing next year again. 2008 is still the best year gaming market has seen.

TROFLMAO

Some of you people need to seriously see what the Gamecube and Xbox did last gen weekly

Not to mention how when Gamecube And Xbox uset to get most NPD's between 180K - 230K was seen as "very good"

The console market is doing brilliantly compared to the past

people forget 1 year ago PS3 had a price cut and got slim and Wii had a price cut too

hence the massive YOY decline for consoles.


I'm sorry , but you must be seeing the whole thing through rose-tinted glasses if you think everything is alright and probably that this gen will last until 2014. It won't - and if the massive decline we are experiencing right now isn't clear enough yet, just wait until February or so.

Maybe good sales could go on a little longer with PS3 at $199, but we'll see at least two new plaftforms next year and the remaining ones just twelve months later at most.

Did you read my post?

I think your the one seeing this through pink tinted glasses

Let me break it down:

1. This generation isn't IMMUNE to decline......yet we have 1 console in its 5th year on the market up YOY......that is virtually unheard of especially considering this console is in 2nd place, not even 1st place.

2. The reason for Wii's YOY decline is obvious, its games library. That issue of a drought has caught up to the Wii, and now one year ago it had a price cut.....so the YOY decline looks even worse......but again IT HAD A PRICE CUT 1 YEAR AGO....of course YOY will look worse.

3. You know the reason for PS3's YOY decline, I won't even bother saying why.

4. Now the consoles in points 2 and 3 are both in their 4th year (so past what is usually the peak year which takes place in a consoles 3rd year in its life)......and one of them isn't even at Mass Market price point showing future potential.

You keep going on about Massive Decline....well that is expected, I would be surprised if PS3 wasn't at a massive decline in terms of YOY sales.

Sorry to break it to you but this generations isn't doomed, I really don't know how people came to this conclusion. 

Not only that, but last gen there were 191 mil consoles shipped between the 3 major consoles.  This also includes PS2's continuing sales to date.  So far this gen, as of the last financial reports, there has been 154 consoles shipped.  By the end of the year they may even be close to reaching that 191 mil mark, and there are still a good 1-2 years left in this gen.

And you also have to consider that ALL the major consoles have shipped at least 40 mil consoles by now, the first time that has ever happened within a gen.  Hell, last gen XBox and Gamecube didn't even reach 25 mil.  Also, by the end of this gen it is very likely all consoles will reach and pass the 50 mil mark.  The SNES, the leader of its gen, wasn't even able to reach the 50 mil mark.  The console market is very much alive. 



 

KillerMan on 17 October 2010
thismeintiel said:
darthdevidem01 said:
haxxiy said:
darthdevidem01 said:
KillerMan said:

Pretty horrible numbers all around. Whole market is way way down. X360 barely up yoy, PS3, DS, PSP and Wii way down. These numbers are horrible even compared to same week during 2007. Fortunately we get next year 3DS and PSP2 which should ensure that industry will be growing next year again. 2008 is still the best year gaming market has seen.

TROFLMAO

Some of you people need to seriously see what the Gamecube and Xbox did last gen weekly

Not to mention how when Gamecube And Xbox uset to get most NPD's between 180K - 230K was seen as "very good"

The console market is doing brilliantly compared to the past

people forget 1 year ago PS3 had a price cut and got slim and Wii had a price cut too

hence the massive YOY decline for consoles.


I'm sorry , but you must be seeing the whole thing through rose-tinted glasses if you think everything is alright and probably that this gen will last until 2014. It won't - and if the massive decline we are experiencing right now isn't clear enough yet, just wait until February or so.

Maybe good sales could go on a little longer with PS3 at $199, but we'll see at least two new plaftforms next year and the remaining ones just twelve months later at most.

Did you read my post?

I think your the one seeing this through pink tinted glasses

Let me break it down:

1. This generation isn't IMMUNE to decline......yet we have 1 console in its 5th year on the market up YOY......that is virtually unheard of especially considering this console is in 2nd place, not even 1st place.

2. The reason for Wii's YOY decline is obvious, its games library. That issue of a drought has caught up to the Wii, and now one year ago it had a price cut.....so the YOY decline looks even worse......but again IT HAD A PRICE CUT 1 YEAR AGO....of course YOY will look worse.

3. You know the reason for PS3's YOY decline, I won't even bother saying why.

4. Now the consoles in points 2 and 3 are both in their 4th year (so past what is usually the peak year which takes place in a consoles 3rd year in its life)......and one of them isn't even at Mass Market price point showing future potential.

You keep going on about Massive Decline....well that is expected, I would be surprised if PS3 wasn't at a massive decline in terms of YOY sales.

Sorry to break it to you but this generations isn't doomed, I really don't know how people came to this conclusion. 

Not only that, but last gen there were 191 mil consoles shipped between the 3 major consoles.  This also includes PS2's continuing sales to date.  So far this gen, as of the last financial reports, there has been 154 consoles shipped.  By the end of the year they may even be close to reaching that 191 mil mark, and there are still a good 1-2 years left in this gen.

And you also have to consider that ALL the major consoles have shipped at least 40 mil consoles by now, the first time that has ever happened within a gen.  Hell, last gen XBox and Gamecube didn't even reach 25 mil.  Also, by the end of this gen it is very likely all consoles will reach and pass the 50 mil mark.  The SNES, the leader of its gen, wasn't even able to reach the 50 mil mark.  The console market is very much alive. 


But the problem is that during the same time frame developing expenses have risen even more than console sales. Most publishers are really struggling to make profit even though gaming market is bigger than it was last gen.



darthdevidem01 on 17 October 2010
thismeintiel said:
darthdevidem01 said:
haxxiy said:
darthdevidem01 said:
KillerMan said:

Pretty horrible numbers all around. Whole market is way way down. X360 barely up yoy, PS3, DS, PSP and Wii way down. These numbers are horrible even compared to same week during 2007. Fortunately we get next year 3DS and PSP2 which should ensure that industry will be growing next year again. 2008 is still the best year gaming market has seen.

TROFLMAO

Some of you people need to seriously see what the Gamecube and Xbox did last gen weekly

Not to mention how when Gamecube And Xbox uset to get most NPD's between 180K - 230K was seen as "very good"

The console market is doing brilliantly compared to the past

people forget 1 year ago PS3 had a price cut and got slim and Wii had a price cut too

hence the massive YOY decline for consoles.


I'm sorry , but you must be seeing the whole thing through rose-tinted glasses if you think everything is alright and probably that this gen will last until 2014. It won't - and if the massive decline we are experiencing right now isn't clear enough yet, just wait until February or so.

Maybe good sales could go on a little longer with PS3 at $199, but we'll see at least two new plaftforms next year and the remaining ones just twelve months later at most.

Did you read my post?

I think your the one seeing this through pink tinted glasses

Let me break it down:

1. This generation isn't IMMUNE to decline......yet we have 1 console in its 5th year on the market up YOY......that is virtually unheard of especially considering this console is in 2nd place, not even 1st place.

2. The reason for Wii's YOY decline is obvious, its games library. That issue of a drought has caught up to the Wii, and now one year ago it had a price cut.....so the YOY decline looks even worse......but again IT HAD A PRICE CUT 1 YEAR AGO....of course YOY will look worse.

3. You know the reason for PS3's YOY decline, I won't even bother saying why.

4. Now the consoles in points 2 and 3 are both in their 4th year (so past what is usually the peak year which takes place in a consoles 3rd year in its life)......and one of them isn't even at Mass Market price point showing future potential.

You keep going on about Massive Decline....well that is expected, I would be surprised if PS3 wasn't at a massive decline in terms of YOY sales.

Sorry to break it to you but this generations isn't doomed, I really don't know how people came to this conclusion. 

Not only that, but last gen there were 191 mil consoles shipped between the 3 major consoles.  This also includes PS2's continuing sales to date.  So far this gen, as of the last financial reports, there has been 154 consoles shipped.  By the end of the year they may even be close to reaching that 191 mil mark, and there are still a good 1-2 years left in this gen.

And you also have to consider that ALL the major consoles have shipped at least 40 mil consoles by now, the first time that has ever happened within a gen.  Hell, last gen XBox and Gamecube didn't even reach 25 mil.  Also, by the end of this gen it is very likely all consoles will reach and pass the 50 mil mark.  The SNES, the leader of its gen, wasn't even able to reach the 50 mil mark.  The console market is very much alive. 

Exactly, I totally agree!!!!



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