I was on your side :)

No actually I am, its just that your arguments against it aren't very serious, no one has shown how games like 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid are needed or add value, all your arguments have been that Nintendo needs diversity, but the fact is, NES never had those games, its games are what is called retro/oldschools games today, and it sold very well, especially for its era, and even today those types of games sell well as shown by NSMB Wii

On the other hand the so called diversity games, the Galaxy, Other M, Skyward sword games and those like them, have been pushed for three generations, and have consistently underperformed , two of those generations were absolute dogs for Nintendo, and this gen those games have helped to kill Nintendo;s momentum.  While games like NSMB and th expanded audience games pushed Nintendo momentum.

So really please I've been waiting, show me why those games are needed, you keep saying Nintendo needs diversity, but  that;s not true, those games didn't exist in the NES era, and Nintendo was fine, so why are they needed now, especially when they have been shown to be failures with regards to momentum or hardware sales?

Show me a successful  console that doesn't have diversity in its lineup.

Ok, if you are serious then I recommend you read the post you reply to. I said that not all Nintendo released games are meant to expand the user base.

Obviously, some games are created with the specific goal of getting people to buy hardware, but Nintendo is more than just a pure hardware producer. They are also the worlds most successful games publisher. As a publisher they are interested in releasing games that make profit for example. Sure, you could argue that a game that makes a certain profit is a waste of resources since there is potentially a game that could make more profit and sell more hardware, but that argument quickly degenerates to every single piece of software ever created being a waste of resources since they took time and money away from titles that were potentially more successful.

This is where your argument is very thin. While Nintendo certainly has created a few titles that probably were meant to increase console sales but failed, that is not true for most of the games they have developed for the Wii.

Gosh, could someone just ban that axt guy? :-S He's too awkward to be taken seriously.

Look for a February-March price drop to $150 (USD) and similar in other regions.

Mike from Morgantown

Yes, I'm waiting for a new price drop just after this holiday season as well... and the "Super Wii" early in 2012. So I think Nintendo sill have some good surprises to shows us.

Just because you don't like his arguments or him making a lot of them is not reason for a ban. That goes against the very spirit of these boards.

Obviously I was kidding, come on, man.

He's just as ignorant as they come, at first it was funny, but when someone's so obviously making no shred of sense and blatantly dismisses other persons' (thoroughly explained and founded) notions, that he may in fact not be right, it just gets old. Fast.

I don't think they would do it that early. A price drop is definitely coming next year but they'll probably hold on it until Summer or Fall unless Sony or MS act first. While things might not be looking that bright at the moment I still think they have a pretty clear shot at hitting their 17.5 projection without a cut, or at least coming very close.