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Bong Lover said:
axt113 said:
Bong Lover said:
axt113 said:
Cheebee said:

Yes, I get that. But he literally called such titles (including Galaxy, which happens to be a near-10-million-seller, how many games can claim that?) 'wastes'.

Also, he's claiming SS is a waste, a title we know hardly anything about and which may not release for another year. How awkward is that, especially considering TP, its predecessor, is one of the best-selling Zelda games ever, and was without a shred of doubt a system seller when Wii launched. And you and I both know there are a LOT of people clamouring for a new console Zelda, let alone a 1:1 motion controlled one.

So, in conclusion, those things do indeed make him wrong. And very much so.

 


Wrong, they are wastes, wastes are uses of resources that don;t add any value, thanks for proving my point that you have no understanding of the business.

 

If the games didn;t push hardware, then they didn;t add value, because consumers didn;t consider them a reason to buy the system, hence they are wastes

Skyward sword will not push console sales at all, so once again I will be right, and you wrong, just wait and see.

 

I find it funny people keep saying that I'm wrong, but no one has given me a reason why, except they like the games, but the fact is, they would have bought the system even without those games, so that argument is flawed

You are wrong. Nintendo isn't just a console maker, they have other goals for their products than to just expand the userbase.


Expanding the user base is proven by console sales, if games aren't selling consoles, they aren't expanding the base

 

C'mon people, these arguments are weak, and easily proven wrong by sales data

I am sorry I responded to your post, you are obviously not serious.


No actually I am, its just that your arguments against it aren't very serious, no one has shown how games like 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid are needed or add value, all your arguments have been that Nintendo needs diversity, but the fact is, NES never had those games, its games are what is called retro/oldschools games today, and it sold very well, especially for its era, and even today those types of games sell well as shown by NSMB Wii

 

On the other hand the so called diversity games, the Galaxy, Other M, Skyward sword games and those like them, have been pushed for three generations, and have consistently underperformed , two of those generations were absolute dogs for Nintendo, and this gen those games have helped to kill Nintendo;s momentum.  While games like NSMB and th expanded audience games pushed Nintendo momentum.

 

So really please I've been waiting, show me why those games are needed, you keep saying Nintendo needs diversity, but  that;s not true, those games didn't exist in the NES era, and Nintendo was fine, so why are they needed now, especially when they have been shown to be failures with regards to momentum or hardware sales?