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gossomer said:

I here you on the 3DS, they definitely have a winner on their hands.


But the reality of it is  that Nintendo has lost over 6.5 Trillion yen ($81B) or two thirds its market value over the past 3 years.  This is value lost to the real owners of the company, the shareholders.


Market value can just as easily be gained back if 3DS is a huge success. Market values for companies like Nintendo can change very fast, even tripling market value in 1 year isn't impossible (I've seen even much stronger gains). Also, shareholders only lose money when they sell their shares for loss. If shares go back up and they haven't sold any of them, they haven't lost anything.



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It's a result of their own greed. If they came up with price drop to $150 in september even with only Wii party they would be able to keep much better sales numbers.



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I don't think it's necessarily bad news for Nintendo. As the launch date for the 3DS gets closer and closer, then naturally people are going to wait to buy what's out at the current moment (even the Wii), so they can just save and buy the newest thing. At least for me, if I didn't already have a DS, and I wanted one, I would just wait till the 3DS came out.

I'm sure that Nintendo saw this coming a mile away.



Seece said:
Mr.Metralha said:
Seece said:
haxxiy said:
Mr.Metralha said:

17.5 million. That not actually bad and still tracking above PS2 with those numbers.

That's what? Double of the 360's forecast?

 


Microsoft doesn't even release forecasts and the Wii soon will fall below the PS2, just wait for it.

Yeah just seems like a sweet dream of his tbh. So far from reality, 360 will ship over 13 million this FY.

Ouch my bad. But I had in mind the annual numbers for 360 last year and supposed this year sales would look similar. Like ~9 million consoles.

Wrong again, 360 sold ans shipped more than 9 mill in 2008 and 2009.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. It just wasn't counting with the Rod'd consoles, which according to a survey last year happened on average on 54.2% of the consoles ( http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html )

Given that not every broken console got replaced, or owners jump ship to another console or whatever, 9 million sounds like a fair number. Either that or lower.



lmao you would think the wii was a mega bomb the way trestres acts....of course they will make another home console in addition to 3ds its extra profit



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wow when xbox 360 and ps3 where getting whopped by the wii where wii talking like this about them im curious? lol some of you act like nintendo isnt the most sucesful out of the 3 this gen.



Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. It just wasn't counting with the Rod'd consoles, which according to a survey last year happened on average on 54.2% of the consoles ( http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html )

Given that not every broken console got replaced, or owners jump ship to another console or whatever, 9 million sounds like a fair number. Either that or lower.

I did a study recently at my workplace. Asked around, and several people had a Wii. Well... 8 people. (6 of which say they bought one for there daughters).

5 of them said that there Wii's had broken down.

This obviously means that the Wii's shipped are about half of what Nintendo says they are.



                            

Quick question for anyone...

How much is the Wii down by YoY so far?



                            

Carl2291 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. It just wasn't counting with the Rod'd consoles, which according to a survey last year happened on average on 54.2% of the consoles ( http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html )

Given that not every broken console got replaced, or owners jump ship to another console or whatever, 9 million sounds like a fair number. Either that or lower.

I did a study recently at my workplace. Asked around, and several people had a Wii. Well... 8 people. (6 of which say they bought one for there daughters).

5 of them said that there Wii's had broken down.

This obviously means that the Wii's shipped are about half of what Nintendo says they are.

The wii failure rate is 2.7% according to this survey by gamespot (but I believe it is 6% as I've already seen on more reliable sources but can't find it now)

Let's make an average and say 4.5%. It fits in the normal failure rate ofr any electronic device.

On the other hand, if I'm going by your logic, the only person I know that had a PS3 (said he used it as Br player because PS3 has no games) doesn't use it anymore because it is broken.

100% failure rate for Sony, then.

 



jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
MrT-Tar said:

ouch!

but 3DS will easily make up for this


the 3DS is inluded in the figure

In the original 30m estimate, yes, but are they in the new figure also?  Nintendo also said they expect to ship 4m 3DS this cycle, I'm not sure if they're bundling DS/3DS estimates anymore?

 

Edit: ack, nevermind skipped that sentince originally somehow.  That's a HUGE DS/3DS drop off. :/


it is included in the revised figure too

its just that first they were going to release in 2010 so the figure was bigger,now they are not so they reduced it