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http://blog.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/09/03/the-phantom-of-terrorism-and-the-rise-of-the-police-state/

"After burning down the German parliament building, the Reichstag and blaming it on “communist terrorists,” Hitler then passed the Enabling Act, which eradicated the German Constitution.  Many years later, the Americans passed the USA Patriot Act, an Anti-Terror legislation in response to 9/11 that took away the civil liberties of the American people.

As Hitler had argued the necessity of creating the Gestapo, the elite at the top of the pyramid justified its actions by virtually the same rhetoric: “An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”  Whether George W. Bush borrowed from Adolf Hitler or not is of little significance.  The use of the same phrase signifies something deeper than simple plagiarism; it means that both men operated on similar principles....

...Nicholas Rockefeller, revealed the real plan behind the war on terror: “By having this war on terror, you can never win it … so you can always keep on taking people’s liberties away.  The media can convince everybody that it’s real.”  Mr. Rockefeller’s ultimate goal is “to get everybody in this world chipped with an RFID chip.”   The chip, an essential element of control, will allow the manipulators to identify and eliminate potential opposition to their unlimited power over the world.  The “fear campaign” will make the act of chipping seem necessary, thus enabling a voluntary mass chipping of the population.

The last thing the power establishment wants is a conscious, informed public, capable of critical thinking.”  Useful methods of preventing this are mass entertainment, drugs, alcohol, and above all, declining educational standards.  The elite does not want the public to question, to demand accountability, to think."



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zgamer5 said:
Kantor said:
zgamer5 said:

i stopped reading after it said that bin ladin is the head of the biggest terrorist organization. he is a terrorist but the biggest terrorist organization in the world is the government. they use mental slavery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

even though i didnt read the article i agree with it on one point, the us sticks their nose where it doesnt belong.

 

*sigh*

Why are people so determined to find conspiracy theories in everything?

Al-Qaeda was behind 9/11

9/11 caused more deaths than any other terrorist attack in recorded history

Bin Laden is the head of Al-Qaeda
Bin Laden was behind 9/11

Therefore, he is the most dangerous terrorist in the world.

The US government, contrary to what is becoming popular belief for some strange reason, is not a terrorist organisation, because it does not use force and terror to raise awareness for a cause and to scare people into compliance. No, the US uses force to resist force. The US uses force to prevent future force. Invading a country to take down a psychopathic dictator is slightly different to flying a plane into a civilian building because God said so.

And this stupid point about American mental control. If America was controlling your mind, you wouldn't know it, because the first thing they would erase would be any suspicion of America. If everyone in Oceania in 1984 went around actively thinking "BIG BROTHER IS CONTROLLING MY MIND" all the time, it wouldn't be a very stable regime.

The US does, on occasion, stick its nose where it doesn't belong, but that's because it's been the world's sheriff for seventy years now. Country steps out of line, UN debates action for several years, security council, generally led by America, agrees to invade. Alternatively, America ignores UN and Security Council, and invades. But not because they're terrorists. Because during the Cold War, they were terrified of the spread of Communism, and now the fear has simply switched to one of Islamic extremism.

do you even know what i ment when i said mental slavery? it didnt even have to do with america.if you knew what i said you woudnt have replied.

also it was a joke.

let me just say this, i live in the middle east, we had elections last year, hilary clinton came to our country to try to influence our population, because clearly they dont want a certain party to get elected. america should really stop trieng to influence people all over the world, its mainly because of them that islamic extremism is spread world wide.

they had control over the cha, who was in iran, they influenced the country, and the people were so sick of it that they went to the extremists, other then that if america didnt defend bahrain or attack iraq it would have a less hate right know. lets not even start talking about isreal.

point is they shoudnt stick their noses were it doesnt belong, its annoying as hell, its frustrating and it makes you feel less then them.

It's hard to tell when somebody is joking online.

Now, I could reply to your post, but I'd much rather post this:



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numonex said:

http://blog.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/09/03/the-phantom-of-terrorism-and-the-rise-of-the-police-state/

"After burning down the German parliament building, the Reichstag and blaming it on “communist terrorists,” Hitler then passed the Enabling Act, which eradicated the German Constitution.  Many years later, the Americans passed the USA Patriot Act, an Anti-Terror legislation in response to 9/11 that took away the civil liberties of the American people.

As Hitler had argued the necessity of creating the Gestapo, the elite at the top of the pyramid justified its actions by virtually the same rhetoric: “An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”  Whether George W. Bush borrowed from Adolf Hitler or not is of little significance.  The use of the same phrase signifies something deeper than simple plagiarism; it means that both men operated on similar principles....

...Nicholas Rockefeller, revealed the real plan behind the war on terror: “By having this war on terror, you can never win it … so you can always keep on taking people’s liberties away.  The media can convince everybody that it’s real.”  Mr. Rockefeller’s ultimate goal is “to get everybody in this world chipped with an RFID chip.”   The chip, an essential element of control, will allow the manipulators to identify and eliminate potential opposition to their unlimited power over the world.  The “fear campaign” will make the act of chipping seem necessary, thus enabling a voluntary mass chipping of the population.

The last thing the power establishment wants is a conscious, informed public, capable of critical thinking.”  Useful methods of preventing this are mass entertainment, drugs, alcohol, and above all, declining educational standards.  The elite does not want the public to question, to demand accountability, to think."

*sigh* Godwin's Law.

The Nazis dragged people from their homes and killed them. They banned all opposing political parties. In the end, they destroyed democracy itself. There was a huge fear of the SS and the Gestapo in every man, woman and child. People would turn their best friends in because they thought the Gestapo would get them anyway. It was illegal to oppose the Nazi Party in any way.

Now can you please explain to me the relation between that and having your baggage and shoes checked at an airport.



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Kantor said:
zgamer5 said:
Kantor said:
zgamer5 said:

i stopped reading after it said that bin ladin is the head of the biggest terrorist organization. he is a terrorist but the biggest terrorist organization in the world is the government. they use mental slavery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

even though i didnt read the article i agree with it on one point, the us sticks their nose where it doesnt belong.

 

*sigh*

Why are people so determined to find conspiracy theories in everything?

Al-Qaeda was behind 9/11

9/11 caused more deaths than any other terrorist attack in recorded history

Bin Laden is the head of Al-Qaeda
Bin Laden was behind 9/11

Therefore, he is the most dangerous terrorist in the world.

The US government, contrary to what is becoming popular belief for some strange reason, is not a terrorist organisation, because it does not use force and terror to raise awareness for a cause and to scare people into compliance. No, the US uses force to resist force. The US uses force to prevent future force. Invading a country to take down a psychopathic dictator is slightly different to flying a plane into a civilian building because God said so.

And this stupid point about American mental control. If America was controlling your mind, you wouldn't know it, because the first thing they would erase would be any suspicion of America. If everyone in Oceania in 1984 went around actively thinking "BIG BROTHER IS CONTROLLING MY MIND" all the time, it wouldn't be a very stable regime.

The US does, on occasion, stick its nose where it doesn't belong, but that's because it's been the world's sheriff for seventy years now. Country steps out of line, UN debates action for several years, security council, generally led by America, agrees to invade. Alternatively, America ignores UN and Security Council, and invades. But not because they're terrorists. Because during the Cold War, they were terrified of the spread of Communism, and now the fear has simply switched to one of Islamic extremism.

do you even know what i ment when i said mental slavery? it didnt even have to do with america.if you knew what i said you woudnt have replied.

also it was a joke.

let me just say this, i live in the middle east, we had elections last year, hilary clinton came to our country to try to influence our population, because clearly they dont want a certain party to get elected. america should really stop trieng to influence people all over the world, its mainly because of them that islamic extremism is spread world wide.

they had control over the cha, who was in iran, they influenced the country, and the people were so sick of it that they went to the extremists, other then that if america didnt defend bahrain or attack iraq it would have a less hate right know. lets not even start talking about isreal.

point is they shoudnt stick their noses were it doesnt belong, its annoying as hell, its frustrating and it makes you feel less then them.

It's hard to tell when somebody is joking online.

Now, I could reply to your post, but I'd much rather post this:


if people from over the world tried to influence your country, and if you had to do what they want to be accepted woudnt you feel used, and not free?



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

TheRealMafoo said:
A203D said:
TheRealMafoo said:
A203D said:

Interesting read, but i'm not too well versed on this stuff, however surely the replacement of the 'globaslist elites' is impossible, because their administrations are far too dominant, and anything that is a threat to them is stopped before they become significant.

Quantamino Bay is a prime example of the laws that are contradictory to freedom and liberty stated in the American constitution; however that constitution i dont think can be taken as an absolute, it seems that its relative to American interests

The funny thing is when I hear most liberals talk about this, they just talk about the problem, and don't offer a solution. If they were to offer a solution, it would look very much like the tea party movement. A movement they are against.

Kind of hard to know where they are coming from. I hear a lot of people complain with no answers, or complain about both the problem and the answers.

Well i havent heard of the tea party movement, it sounds like a grass roots type thing, which takes place via non qualified personal. tbh, this type of thing dosent seem like it has a serious solution, because the Republicans and Democrats seem far too dominant to allow that happening.

besides the other reason i think this is pretty much impossible is because of this idea of 'globalist elites', i dont understand it that well. but it seems to me that their values have been embedded into the Amercain society over the last 2 - 3 decades, since G.Bush senior was in office. so i think that it will take such radical thinking to change those values, who ever does question them becomes part of a minority??

That's the amazing thing that's going on right now. This movement has a lot of power. over 30% of Americans don't hold an allegiance to either party. For more people who call themselves Democrate of Republican, what they really want is no in those parties.

Because of this, a Tea Party candidate can, and will, win. This election we will only see 5-10% of the people from the Tea Party, but that's huge considering where we started. 

There does not need to be to many of them to make sure all the bills either party passes are good bills for the people.

Oh, and what qualifications does one need to hold office? Here is an example of a Tea Party Candidate that both the Republicans and Democrats hate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Miller_(Alaska_politician)

He beat the GOP candidate, in the primaries. Seems qualified enough for me. Far more qualified then Obama.

Interesting, i'll read up on them!!



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9/11 is the American holocaust with 3,000 martyrs being used as justification to declare war on every single country in the Middle East one by one. Israel always uses the 6 million Jews killed as justification for every single war and terrorist attack they carry out to defend the Zionist state of Israel. 



TheRealMafoo said:
Rath said:

The thing is the tea party is even more conservative, especially fiscally, than the Republicans.

I don't see how thats going to woo the independents, the people voting for the tea party will mostly be Republicans. It's not going to be a massive shift in American politics as far as I can see, perhaps a fairly large change in the republican party however.


I think it will.

In the last 20 years or so of politics, most people really vote for who they hate the least. There has been no one who has been someone people could really get behind.

The nice thing about the Tea Party, is that's the only reason a candidate from that party is elected. They are, for the first time in a long time, someone people want in office. Not just the guy they don't want the least.

As for the reference to Republicans being conservative... there is nothing conservative about that party. Yea, Obama has spent more then every other administration before it combined, but before Obama, Bush did the same thing.

All both parties know how to do, is set policy that bankrupts the country.


It's true.

The other interesting thing is that the Tea party isn't actually a party.

All you need to get tea party backing is be fiscally conservative.  The politican who runs will be based fully on the local base.

If more liberally social, fiscally conservative people step up you'll get more of those types etc.

Might happen, afterall the austerity focused countries in europe actually seem to already have better increasing economies then the US even though usually you expect a lag.

It's really another reason why people are freaking out.



http://www.pakistan.tv/videos-approaching-doomsday-nwo-illuminati-obama-prophecy-[2VnCyJgnX90].cfm

Dooms day in 2012: end times? The  War of Terror is used to force chips onto everyone. Go off the grid the elites simply turn off your chip. The chip is the way of controlling every aspect of your life and no freedom. 

Accept god and turn away from sin. reject the New World Order and refuse the 16 digit chips which will control you on the grid. Satellites in place it is all part of controlling people with the chips. The Technology is here and the "elites" can do it. 

The elites are the Free Masons/Zions promising peace, security and safety from terrorism. But that is a huge lie and you must reject the chips. 

VeriChips, now called Positive ID are being forced onto people who are being tricked into accepting chips.. Vaccines are a way of chipping people. Swine flu was absolute crap and you could be chipped by accepting the vaccine.

The next step is compulsory chipping of all citizens. Refuse the government control chips.  Stand up and fight for your freedom and liberty. 



European Union(check), African Union, American Union and Pacific Union. 4  main unions covering every single region of the world under the control of the global elites. New World Order is here and there is no escape from serfdom and slavery under the control of the elites. 

CFR, Bilderberg Group and the UN and other evil world organisations have  evil plans for a world controlled by the hidden global elites. The compulsory microchip of all citizens will be needed to ensure every single person is under the power and control of the elites. The chip will be marketed in many ways. Keep people safe and secure from terrorism. The chip will lead to a one world government. If anyone protests, they just turn off your chip. Chips will lead to a cashless society and well has its benefits but there is an evil agenda behind it all.

By putting most of the nations into inextinguishable foreign debt the elites have control over every nation's financial markets and banking system. Nation loses its sovereignty: freedom and liberty when its finance and banking system is privatised and owned by the elites. Foreign debt is the greatest weapon of them all and it means more power and control by the elites and international owners. 



Multiculturalism, Women's Liberation, and political correctness, etc were all plans, funded by the elites. Fabian Society promoting equal opportunity and  race mixing are blatant Marxist/Communist propaganda. More women in work means bigger tax base and more money going straight into the global corporate elites pocket. The children educated by the schools instead of home schooling, education system run and controlled by the elites and students  brainwashed into believing the elites evil propaganda and lies. 

Green World Order movement promoted by CFR and UN, etc would result in $45 trillion from the rich nations to the global elites and poor nations by 2012.  Marxist/Communist claptrap promoted by the global elites. The elites fund all political parties and they decide who becomes the next leader of the biggest nations. Rigged elections in America have been widespread since 1960 when JFK stole the election from Nixon.  The world economy is run like a rigged casino. 

Obama is a Marxist/Communist: endorsed by the elites. 

Obama had secret meetings with the new world order leader David Rockefeller and his fellow elites  before becoming President. ObamaCare is a Marxist/Communist agenda. That program would bankrupt America. The end of free choice. What happened to freedom and liberty in America?