I don't assume a god at all personally.  But you say that existence could not have come out of nothing, but why should a god be able to? 

For there to be a god to create the universe one of two things must be true 1) God came into existence from nothing and created the universe or 2) God has always existed and created the universe

If you assume the argument of (1) then the argument is self defeated because one must ask what created god?   and what created that creator? and it's creators creator?  It goes on forever.  If in argument (1) you assign god the property of being able to spontaneously exist from nothing then the argument again is self defeating.  If you can assign that property of spontaneous existnece to a god why not the universe?

For the second argument (2) you must ask the same question, if one can assume god has always existed then why can one not assign the same property of eternal existence to the universe?  This is the position I hold, that the universe is eternal but has no creator.  The big bang is not the beginning of time (as any physicist will tell you, it's the beginning of our universe, not of all existence) but merely a point in time from which all previous events have no meaning.  Anything that happened before the big bang does not affect what happened after it, thus the beginning of our universe, our time. 

If you can't understand the huge leap on the Jump To Conclusions Mat the article's writer took with that bolded sentence, I do not know what to say to you.

Just as a God could arise from nothingness, so could matter. Both are beyond our current comprehension but just because we cannot explain it, the answer does not default to "God did it", which that paragraph implies.

I'm not saying there ISN'T a god of some kind (I'm an Agnostic), but not keeping an open mind about the creation of the universe and trying to explain it away with a far-reaching supposition like the one above is ridiculous to anyone with an ability to think critically about the subject.

What? A God cant be created by another being, because that would mean that God had a beginning and since God is eternal, he cant have a beginning.

See, that's the fundamental flaw with most religious thought. "I'm a mortal, and God is so powerful and infinite that I couldn't possibly understand Him". Well, if you can't understand him, how can you possibly make such arguments? If He is so all powerful that He is uncomprehendable, how are you so quick to know where He came from with mere mortal logic? 

O really? Than please, go ahed and enlighten my dumb, ignorant fundamentalis brain with your all knowing, limitless, convincing, amazing knowledge of scinece and logic, almighty and superior non believer. Because i really cant imagine something being eternal. Why dont you try? Its impossible.

Also, who is to say that the God you worship isn't merely something that was created by something outside the realm of God? I could just as easily say that something outside of God's realm, created God, then God, outside the realm of time and space, created the universe. And I could keep going back further and further, and you would have absolutely no evidence to make a counterargument.

Because like i said billions of times before, God cant have a creator, because that would mean that he had a beginning. And since he is eternal, he cant have a beginning. And there is no such thing as something outside of God's realm. He is everywhere.

The assumption of "must be that something" is just this guys rationale for explaining something he doesn't understand. But you know what else came about from people not understanding things? Greek mythology. Why is their thunder and lightning? Oh Zeus did it. Why do we love one another? Oh Aphrodite did it.

Lol, your using pagan myths to compare them with real arguments that support the existance of a TRUE God, the creator and ruler of everything in the existance

Why can't something above God "be that something"? And why can't something above that "be that something"? Who are we, as humans who have no finite evidence of anything above our spatial plane, to say that it stops at this God that you worship, and nothing above that? What evidence do you have other than an old book that has the writings of man?

Because nothing in the existance is above God.

We say that God spoke to man, and he interpreted his words into the Bible. How do we know for sure if that interpretation is correct? Remember, man is supposed to be flawed, so maybe everything we know about God is flawed, since it was man who supposedly passed down the word of God.

I've gotten into too many topics. I normally like to focus on one point when making an argument, but it's so easy to spill over into something else, so the balls in your court now

I  figured you out. You are making up the questions to make my arguments and logic collapse, because you dont have an actual answer to anything, so you have to twist stuff by asking questions.

Wow, talk about circular logic.

whats circular about that?

Read your argument again. If you don't see why that is there's nothing I can do to help you.

Ok since i cant find nothing circular about the post i made, it looks like this argument is over. Unless of course, you wanna help me out and say what is so sircular about what i wrote or narrow it down to a specifc post i made.

Ok since i cant find nothing circular about the post i made, it looks like this argument is over. Unless of course, you wanna help me out and say what is so sircular about what i wrote or narrow it down to a specifc post i made.