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rocketpig said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Because everything cant come out of nothing. And by nothing, i really mean nothing. No time, no natural process of any kind, no life, no ANYTHING. Or are you assuming that God created the Big Bang which created the universe?

Where did God come from again in your view?


A God can not ''come from'' anything. However,that question goes far beyond my understanding as a mortal. But i think this quote from the article i posted is somehow related to that quesion:

The skeptic sometimes asks, "Well, then, who created God?" The answer is that no one created God, as he is eternal. A rule of logic states that every effect must have an antecedent cause. But God is not an effect; rather he is a cause. The logic here is simple but compelling. Since something exists, and since something cannot arise from nothing—and further that the universe itself is not eternal—something outside of the universe must be eternal. An infinite creator God must be that something. Time and space had a beginning, but God exists outside of time and space.

If you can't understand the huge leap on the Jump To Conclusions Mat the article's writer took with that bolded sentence, I do not know what to say to you.

Just as a God could arise from nothingness, so could matter. Both are beyond our current comprehension but just because we cannot explain it, the answer does not default to "God did it", which that paragraph implies.

I'm not saying there ISN'T a god of some kind (I'm an Agnostic), but not keeping an open mind about the creation of the universe and trying to explain it away with a far-reaching supposition like the one above is ridiculous to anyone with an ability to think critically about the subject.

But God DIDNT arise from anything. That would mean he had a beginning. He didnt, as he is eternal.